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Backbench debate and Debate on select committee report on Thursday, 3 April 2014, in the House of Commons, led by Bernard Jenkin. The answering member was Lord Maude of Horsham.


Civil Service Reform

Thirty-fifth backbench debate (part two). Motion that this House has considered the eighth report from the Public Administration Select Committee, on Truth to power: how Civil Service reform can succeed, HC 74, and the Government response, HC 955, and the first report from the Liaison Committee, on Civil Service: lacking capacity, HC 884, and the Government response, HC 1216. Motion lapsed.


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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
578 cc1082-1113 
Session
2013-14
Department
Public Administration Select Committee
Liaison Committee
Cabinet Office
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lindsay Hoyle | 578 c1083 (Link to this contribution)

I call Mr Bernard Jenkin to speak for between 10 and 15 minutes.

3.10 pm

Bernard Jenkin | 578 cc1083-4 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered the Eighth Report from the Public Administrat...

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Caroline Spelman | 578 c1084 (Link to this contribution)

Over the last 17 years we have been in a unique position, as Ministers in all three main parties ...

Bernard Jenkin | 578 c1084 (Link to this contribution)

I wholly agree. I am extremely grateful for my right hon. Friend’s support for the proposal, and ...

Anne Begg | 578 c1084 (Link to this contribution)

Will the commission’s remit include the Scottish civil service, which after all is the responsibi...

Bernard Jenkin | 578 c1084 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the hon. Lady’s intervention, and I can in fact inform the House that the Publi...

Lord Maude of Horsham | 578 c1084 (Link to this contribution)

On a pure point of fact, since 1922 the civil service in Northern Ireland has been separate.

Bernard Jenkin | 578 cc1084-5 (Link to this contribution)

Touché, as they say. I am most grateful for that information. I am sure it would have been in the...

Lord Harper | 578 c1085 (Link to this contribution)

On the urgency of the task, I note that the date for this commission to report is my birthday, wh...

Bernard Jenkin | 578 cc1085-7 (Link to this contribution)

The alternative is that we put it off. Perhaps the commission could finish more quickly, but thes...

Lindsay Hoyle | 578 c1086 (Link to this contribution)

May I suggest to Members that they take up to 10 minutes only?

3.26 pm

Kelvin Hopkins | 578 cc1086-1090 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the Chairman of the Select Committee, of which I, too, am a member. Ma...

Lord Beith | 578 cc1090-1 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Harwich and North Essex (Mr Jenkin) on bringing this matter fo...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 578 cc1092-3 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Harwich and North Essex (Mr Jenkin) on securing this hugely im...

Kelvin Hopkins | 578 c1093 (Link to this contribution)

Managing contracts is the issue, because if less was contracted out and more was done in house, s...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 578 c1094 (Link to this contribution)

I know where my hon. Friend is coming from, but we need the capability in government effectively ...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 578 c1094 (Link to this contribution)

Was the right hon. Lady as impressed as I was by Michael Spurr, the new head of the National Offe...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 578 cc1094-5 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree, and that takes me very neatly to my next point. Promotion in the civil service ...

Lord Beith | 578 c1095 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the point the right hon. Lady is making. It comes back to what I was saying about th...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 578 c1095 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with that comment.

Finally, I want to talk about the conventions on respon...

Bernard Jenkin | 578 c1095 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady might be surprised to know that when I addressed 200 civil servants at luncht...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 578 c1096 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has had a very telling experience, and I agree with him.

Right across to...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 578 c1096 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I appreciate that Mr Deputy Speaker advised the House that if everybody takes approximatel...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 578 cc1096-8 (Link to this contribution)

In 2010, when I accepted an invitation to join the Government of Britain, to coin a phrase, I fou...

Kelvin Hopkins | 578 c1097 (Link to this contribution)

I am disappointed at the right hon. Gentleman’s criticism of the concept, but the fact is that th...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 578 c1097 (Link to this contribution)

I find great difficulty in understanding how a cross-party Select Committee would find it impossi...

Bernard Jenkin | 578 c1097 (Link to this contribution)

Why does my right hon. Friend think that the think-tank he has set up would be any more objective...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 578 cc1097-9 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the right hon. Member for Barking that we should let a thousand flowers bloom. Many ...

Nick Raynsford | 578 cc1099-1101 (Link to this contribution)

May I at the outset draw attention to a non-pecuniary interest? I chair the Centre for Public Scr...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 578 c1101 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I have tried the polite and honourable approach, but it has not worked, so I have to impos...

Baroness Bray of Coln | 578 cc1101-2 (Link to this contribution)

The civil service is a critical national institution and part of the very fabric of politics. Sin...

John Healey | 578 cc1102-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is good to follow the hon. Member for Ealing Central and Acton (Angie Bray). I welcome this de...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 578 cc1104-5 (Link to this contribution)

We in this House can make whatever decisions we like, but unless the machinery of government is f...

Andrew Miller | 578 cc1105-6 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Public Administration Committee The hon. Member for Thurrock (Jackie Doyle-Pri...

Jonathan Ashworth | 578 cc1106-1110 (Link to this contribution)

This has been an extremely good debate, with exceptional speeches from all Members who have contr...

Lord Maude of Horsham | 578 cc1110-2 (Link to this contribution)

First, I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Harwich and North Essex (Mr Jenkin) on securi...

Bernard Jenkin | 578 cc1112-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend the Minister and everyone who has spoken in the debate. I agree that...

Bernard Jenkin | 578 c1113 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend says it is a weed, but I think he demeans himself by being derogatory about so man...

Subjects
Accountability Civil servants Civil service Powers Procurement Staff Ministers Special advisers Political impartiality Reform Senior civil servants
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