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Motion, That this House has considered the introduction of UK-made zero-emission buses. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Ian Jnr Paisley
Answering member
Guy Opperman
Department
Department for Transport
Type
Backbench debates
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc275-298WH
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,

That this House has considered the introduction of UK-made zero-emission buses.

I thank the Backbench Committee for listing the debate. At the outset, I declare my membership of the all-parliamentary group for the bus and coach industry. The chairman of that group, the right hon. Member for Scarborough...

Member
Ian Jnr Paisley (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 c275WH
House
House of Commons

I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing the debate. It is always good to support a colleague when they secure such an important debate. On the issue of UK-made

buses—he has repeated “UK-made” several times, quite rightly—does he agree that that is all the more important now when we look...

Member
Gregory Campbell (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 c275WH
House
House of Commons

I was going to come on to that point later, but I will come on to it now, because it gets to the nub of the issue. The ZEBRA 1 and 2 schemes promised the United Kingdom £312 million of taxpayers’ money to fund the purchase of 2,270 buses. That...

Member
Ian Jnr Paisley (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc276-8WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend has underlined the crucial issue of human rights abuses and the persecution, trafficking and all sorts of things happening to ensure that China can produce a bus more cheaply. When it comes to our councils buying buses in the United Kingdom—it is brought up all the time...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 c278WH
House
House of Commons

That is a point I will come to whenever I make requests of the Minister at the end of my speech. I thank my hon. Friend for making that important point.

I have an appeal for Transport for London, which has been one of Northern Ireland’s most brilliant customers. It allowed...

Member
Ian Jnr Paisley (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc278-9WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Rosindell. I congratulate the hon. Member for North Antrim (Ian Paisley) and my right hon. Friend the Member for Scarborough and Whitby (Sir Robert Goodwill) on securing this important debate. I have worked on the subject of zero-emission buses for...

Member
Iain Stewart (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc279-281WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Rosindell. I start by congratulating the hon. Member for North Antrim (Ian Paisley) on securing the debate. I thought his speech was both passionate and spot on in terms of analysis and presentation. He and I may disagree on many...

Member
Kenny MacAskill (Alba Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc281-2WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Rosindell. I thank the hon. Member for North Antrim (Ian Paisley) for

securing this important debate. It was a pleasure to meet him and the bus manufacturers he recently invited to the House to discuss in more detail this hugely...

Member
Ben Bradley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc282-5WH
House
House of Commons

It is an absolute pleasure to speak in this debate. I thank my hon. Friend the Member for North Antrim (Ian Paisley) for introducing it so well. This is something that he has done not just today, but for all his elected life, and he deserves a lot of credit...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc285-6WH
House
House of Commons

There was me, about to say that I agreed with pretty much everything that my DUP colleagues said,

and then the hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon) made his final comment. I am sure he did so on purpose, as he always does.

I start by thanking the hon. Member for...

Member
Gavin Newlands (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc286-9WH
House
House of Commons

I am pleased to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Rosindell, and to respond to this debate on behalf of the official Opposition. I extend my sincere thanks to the Backbench Business Committee for facilitating this debate, and to the hon. Member for North Antrim (Ian Paisley) for securing it. The...

Member
Simon Lightwood (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc289-292WH
House
House of Commons

I am listening to the hon. Member’s speech with interest. I want to clarify one point before I address the Chamber. Is the Labour party’s approach to continue to be part of the World Trade Organisation agreement on Government procurement rules made in 2012? Surely that goes to the heart...

Member
Guy Opperman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 c291WH
House
House of Commons

I do not agree with the Minister’s assertion. As others have said, the debate is about highlighting and acknowledging the important social and environmental benefits that UK manufacturing brings to these shores.

UK bus manufacturers are in a profoundly frustrating position when they should be leading our green transition. Support for...

Member
Simon Lightwood (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc291-3WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Rosindell. I think it is the first time I have had the opportunity to do so since you returned to the House, and you are most welcome.

I congratulate the hon. Member for North Antrim (Ian Paisley) on securing the debate...

Member
Guy Opperman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 cc293-4WH
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister give way?

Member
Paul Girvan (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 c294WH
House
House of Commons

Not yet. Let me try to set out the position and then I will happily give way to the hon. Gentleman.

The starting position is that the UK is part of the 2012 World Trade Organisation agreement on Government procurement and the related WTO texts. As the Chair of the Select...

Member
Guy Opperman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 c294WH
House
House of Commons

I want to make a point about other countries that are major manufacturers. We will not speak about the elephant in the room—although we probably will; it is China—but some of our neighbours sometimes play fast and loose with what is termed state aid. Unfortunately, companies in those places get...

Member
Paul Girvan (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 c294WH
House
House of Commons

I am told that the companies Yutong and BYD are not state-owned. That is the first key point. The second is that there is a degree to which we debate in this House the extent to which the state supports individual companies in their individual country. I take the hon....

Member
Guy Opperman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 c294WH
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister give way on the WTO?

Member
Gavin Newlands (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 May 2024
Reference
750 c294WH
House
House of Commons