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Energy Bill (HL). Lords committee stage (third day). Amendments considered. Clauses 33-39 agreed. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room.

Department
Department of Energy and Climate Change; Committee of the Whole House (HL)
Type
Debates on bills; Committee proceedings
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c115-72GC
House
House of Lords

The point that I am making is that the landlord, if he has a tenant who will not agree, will continue the tenancy. When the tenancy changes, the landlord will have to change his plans. No one can force a tenant out, unless it is done legally—and, as the noble...

Member
Lord Marland (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c159GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in moving Amendment 20P, perhaps I shall half come to the rescue of the previous discussion. Clause 37 refers to action by local authorities. My amendment would stop the introduction of some measures being conditional upon the outcome of the review to be established under Clause 36. My...

Member
Baroness Maddock (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c145-6GC
House
House of Lords

I shall speak also to Amendments 20Y and 21C in this group. These amendments concern the timing of the regulations that will affect the private rented sector. Currently, the review that is required under Clause 36 has to be published by 1 April 2014, and the regulations that will follow...

Member
Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c138-9GC
House
House of Lords

Perhaps I should clarify that the authorities in Scotland will and can do whatever they want with their own powers. We are acting only as a facilitator for them to consider enacting those powers. I hope that that clarifies the matter for the noble Duke.

Member
Lord Marland (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c150GC
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Baroness for seeking that extra clarification. In this clause we are assuming that in a situation where a tenant is holding out against the wishes of every other tenant in a block, he would be required to undertake the improvements as part of the Green Deal....

Member
Lord Grantchester (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c171-2GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I admit that I do not understand this amendment. I do not understand what it does. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Grantchester, for his explanation, but I do not see how it relates to multiple tenancies. I apologise and will leave it at that.

Member
Lord Teverson (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c172GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am very grateful to noble Lords for their amendments to Clause 39. Amendment 20AAA would give local authorities the power to carry out improvement works if the landlord defaults, and to recover all reasonable costs for undertaking work. We are not convinced that it is appropriate to...

Member
Baroness Northover (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c172GC
House
House of Lords

I am of course grateful for the questions on this matter, especially from the noble Lord, Lord Teverson. Perhaps later we will sit down and put our heads together. It could benefit all of us to read today's proceedings twice or three times to understand the different angles from which...

Member
Lord Grantchester (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c172GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Wednesday at 3.45 pm.

Member
Baroness Northover (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c172GC
House
House of Lords

I apologise for the delay; the groupings are a little confusing. I am reminded during these debates of the words of the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, who said that we were entering a very complex area. One comes to the Grand Committee thinking that one understands everything, but as the...

Member
Lord Grantchester (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c170-1GC
House
House of Lords

20AAA: Clause 39, page 25, line 16, at end insert— ““( ) Provision falling within subsection (1) may also include the power to carry out improvement works in default of the landlord, recovering all reasonable costs necessary for undertaking the work.””

Member
Lord Grantchester (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c170GC
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Maddock for putting forward the amendment. Obviously it has considerable merit. The greater the fine, the greater the determination we show to achieve what we set out. On this occasion, contrary to the last, I agree with my noble friend Lord Jenkin...

Member
Lord Marland (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c170GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have not the slightest doubt but that the Government will apply a cold and analytical eye to these issues, because that is their role. I hear what the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, says, and we all know that certain powers are more honoured in the breach than...

Member
Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c169-70GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I get the impression that we are coming up against the problem of balance that I referred to in a speech made some hours ago. It is now getting to the point where, if these amendments are accepted, the Bill will expect local authorities to take fairly drastic...

Member
Lord Jenkin of Roding (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c168-9GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 20AA and 20AB. I will be very brief because I believe I have covered quite a lot of this. We also have an amendment coming up later which is a little similar to amendments that I am speaking to here. I have...

Member
Baroness Maddock (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c168GC
House
House of Lords

20Z: Clause 39, page 25, line 7, leave out ““may”” and insert ““shall””

Member
Baroness Maddock (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c168GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will address the point that the Government are very keen for there to be no barrier to the entry of new landlords into the market. It is improbable that people will enter at the level of the worst properties in the worst conditions. The buy-to-let market has...

Member
Lord Best (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c166-7GC
House
House of Lords

I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Best, and for the support expressed by my noble friend Lady Maddock. The noble Lord spent a constructive Sunday writing his excellent speech because it has given us a good picture of what is going on in the sector. In many...

Member
Lord Marland (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c166GC
House
House of Lords

I am grateful for the Minister's comments, but I am not sure that he answered any of the points that I raised. I am still seeking guidance from him about the non-letting of a property where a landlord has failed to make the required energy efficiency improvements. I think that...

Member
Baroness Smith of Basildon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 January 2011
Reference
724 c167GC
House
House of Lords