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Following the 2017 General Election, under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act 2011 the next general election would be in 2022. Final recommendations for new boundaries for a reduced number of constituencies are due to be made in September 2018. A statutory instrument will then be debated in Parliament to approve...

Type
Commons Briefing papers
Date
21 December 2017
Reference
CBP-8189

Lords debate on motion to call attention to the "Review of Voting Systems: The Experience of New Voting Systems in the United Kingdom since 1997". Motion withdrawn.

Lead member
Lord Tyler
Answering member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath
Department
Ministry of Justice
Type
Debates
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1579-616
House
House of Lords

My Lords, many of us will remember the end of the apartheid regime in South Africa, when folk had their first opportunity of casting a vote. I remember a television clip of a polling station in Soweto. The polling lasted at least three days because there were so many people...

Member
Lord Roberts of Llandudno (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1599-601
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, thank the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, not only for introducing this debate on electoral systems but for making mention of the Power commission’s work. As many of your Lordships know, I chaired the Power commission for the Rowntree trusts in 2006. We undertook an extensive research...

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Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1591-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, of course I support the democratic legitimacy of the House of Commons. That is why I would welcome the House of Commons moving either to STV or to the Scottish and Welsh system of first past the post plus top-ups or alternative vote plus top-ups. That would wholly...

Member
Lord Goodhart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1590
House
House of Lords

My Lords, if I am following the noble Lord’s argument and that of the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, we would finish up with a House of Lords elected by STV, which is, in their terms, more representative than the House of Commons. Will the noble Lord address two subsequent points?...

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Lord Sewel (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1590
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Maxton, and I, too, congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, on introducing this timely debate. It may come as no surprise that I shall disagree with many points that have been made; indeed, it may appear that we...

Member
Lord Norton of Louth (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1585-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, for introducing the debate. This is a very important subject, which the House should consider. However, he will not be that surprised to know that I am not going to follow him down the route of supporting PR systems. I use...

Member
Lord Maxton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1583-5
House
House of Lords

rose to call attention to the Review of Voting Systems: The Experience of New Voting Systems in the United Kingdom since 1997; and to move for Papers. The noble Lord said: My Lords, I have just been in a country where less than 2 per cent of those entitled to...

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Lord Tyler (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1579-83
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in the course of one or two minutes, I clearly cannot do justice to a very wide-ranging debate. I agreed very much with the Minister on one point: this has been a fascinating discussion. I hope that the other place will in due course also discuss these issues....

Member
Lord Tyler (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1615-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, that is very simple. Different situations call for different voting systems. So far as my beloved party is concerned, you vote for a particular office and a particular person. The advantage of first past the post is that you are producing a Government who rest on confidence in...

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1615
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before the Minister concludes, I want to ask one question. He said that the first past the post system produces a legitimate result. Why does the Labour Party—as well as the Conservative Party—avoid the system in its internal elections?

Member
Lord Roberts of Llandudno (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1615
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I join other noble Lords in thanking the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, for bringing this subject to our attention. I come at this question as one who thinks that we have messed around with our voting system too much already. I see nothing wrong with the well-tried and...

Member
Lord De Mauley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1608-10
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I think we should look at what happened in Scotland after 1999. The Labour Party had 33 per cent of the vote, while the Liberal Democrats secured 17 per cent, making 50 per cent. The people of Scotland wanted something different from what was done in Westminster, such...

Member
Lord Rennard (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1608
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the situation surrounding the election by members of a party of a leader of their party, where a single person is being selected rather than a party, is completely different from that for electing a party to government, where there is a need for accountability, stability and ease...

Member
Lord De Mauley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1610
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I take the point that my noble friend is making, but would he accept that he is not comparing like with like? People vote for the Chamber—if I can use that term—that they feel is most important. Therefore local government is less so than a Parliament or Assembly,...

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Lord Watson of Invergowrie (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1603
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, for giving us the opportunity to discuss electoral systems or, more specifically, to discuss this report. We also should congratulate the Government on setting up the report and for it being available as a textbook. I agree...

Member
Lord Grocott (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1601-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too pay tribute to the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, for initiating the debate. I should say at the outset that my remarks are likely to be minority remarks on these Benches, with the noble and notable exception of my noble friend Lady Kennedy of The Shaws. I...

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Lord Watson of Invergowrie (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1596-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness in that thoughtful and constructive speech. I also congratulate my noble friend Lord Tyler on introducing this debate. I hope it does not become too obvious in the next few minutes that I have been dragooned into speaking...

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1594-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I know that the noble Lord is familiar with the work of other academics. Many academics across the board, including Professor Patrick Dunleavy at the LSE and Professor Pippa Norris at Harvard, have found that fewer votes are wasted and turnout has declined less in countries that have...

Member
Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2008
Reference
699 c1593
House
House of Lords