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Moved by

Baroness Hollins

1: Clause 8, page 7, line 37, at end insert “, or

( ) in the course of its transmission by means of a public telecommunication system.”

Member
Baroness Hollins (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c433
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I had hoped not to detain the House, but last night the Government indicated, to my surprise, that they will oppose this amendment. I hope noble Lords will understand the need for me to set out some of the context.

The debate on Report was very clear about the...

Member
Baroness Hollins (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 cc433-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, briefly, I support the noble Baroness. My understanding is that this amendment has been tabled because of a drafting issue in the amendment that was overwhelmingly passed by the House, on the basis of the principle of protecting those whose phones have been hacked into by newspapers which...

Member
Lord Paddick (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c434
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendment. The situation is complex and I think everybody concedes that the amendment as passed by your Lordships’ House last week had deficiencies. However, it was agreed by the Public Bill Office that it was adequate, as it has agreed that the amendment...

Member
Baroness O'Neill of Bengarve (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c435
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in considering this amendment we need to be mindful of lessons from history. We have heard the tale before that the press will reform itself. Some noble Lords will remember similar debates following the 1990 Calcutt inquiry. When asked to report on the efficacy of the PCC in...

Member
Lord Low of Dalston (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 cc435-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, when the amendments moved on Report by the noble Baroness, Lady Hollins, were discussed, the Government said that they did not believe that they would achieve the outcome she was seeking since the relevant clause dealt with the interception of private telecommunications systems, such as a company’s internal...

Member
Lord Rosser (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 cc436-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we discussed this issue in some detail on Report. As we previously made clear, the cause of action, or tort, provided for in Clause 8 is intended to replicate the safeguard in the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000. This focuses on circumstances where an individual’s communications are...

Member
Lord Keen of Elie (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 cc437-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, thank you for contributing to our understanding this problem a little further. At no point has the House been told that the amendments are not in scope. In fact, it was suggested to me over the weekend by members of Her Majesty’s Government that I should seek instead...

Member
Baroness Hollins (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c438
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Keen of Elie

2: Clause 41, page 34, line 28, leave out “to which the warrant relates” and insert “authorised or required by the warrant”

Member
Lord Keen of Elie (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c442
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will now address a series of government amendments which are minor and technical in nature. They aim to correct minor drafting oversights and inconsistencies within the Bill, as well as to clarify provisions and make minor consequential changes. Clause 41 contains special rules that apply for certain...

Member
Lord Keen of Elie (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c442
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support the Minister on this group of amendments. As I do not propose to speak on the next and final group, I just want to make a couple of general points about the Bill, which will take only a minute or two.

This is the final day of...

Member
Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 cc442-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support these amendments and I strongly support my noble friend Lord Rooker in everything that he has said. This Bill is a classic example of how a Bill should come through this place. The way in which it has been built up across Parliament has been remarkable....

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c443
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was going to speak later but I think that I will speak now, as I am driven to do so by the comments of previous speakers.

The Bill is undoubtedly better than it was at the start. It could not help but be because of all the effort...

Member
Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 cc443-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, does the noble Baroness accept that Edward Snowden, by releasing millions of bits of classified material, has actually made all of us less safe than we were? It is a certain fact that he has done that. He is hardly someone to quote as a great and noble...

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c444
House
House of Lords

I think that we will find in the future that this legislation will return again and again to bite us, and many of us here will regret having passed it.

Member
Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c444
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I disagree with the noble Baroness, Lady Jones. She played an important role in the course of this Bill in reminding your Lordships of the need to deal with the liberty of the citizen. But the greatest threat to the liberty of the citizen is the threat to...

Member
Lord Murphy of Torfaen (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c444
House
House of Lords

I am obliged to the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, for making his point at this stage. This is an important Bill. It will update the framework for the use of investigatory powers to obtain communications for the foreseeable future. But it not only provides powers, it provides safeguards that are...

Member
Lord Keen of Elie (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 cc444-5
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Keen of Elie

3: Clause 41, page 34, line 41, leave out “to which the warrant relates” and insert “authorised or required by the warrant”

4: Clause 41, page 35, line 12, leave out “to which the warrant relates” and insert “authorised or required by the warrant”

Member
Lord Keen of Elie (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c445
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Keen of Elie

6: Clause 56, page 45, line 20, leave out “The Investigatory Powers Commissioner may” and insert “Unless the Investigatory Powers Commissioner considers that subsection (3B) applies to the item, the Commissioner must”

Member
Lord Keen of Elie (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 c445
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in moving this amendment I shall speak also to the other amendments in the group. This House has already discussed the important issue of legal privilege and whether the protections in the Bill for material that attracts privilege are adequate. At Report stage, the Government made a number...

Member
Lord Keen of Elie (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2016
Reference
776 cc445-6
House
House of Lords