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My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. The UK Government need to get a grip and work with the other Governments and local councils around the United Kingdom on an equal basis.

Right at the start of the pandemic, the World Health Organisation said that we should “test, test, test”, and...

Member
Nick Thomas-Symonds (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 cc396-7
House
House of Commons

I said on Monday that I was actually quite pleased with the app, and I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman is pleased with the app and whether he has installed it and switched it on.

Member
Steve Baker (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c397
House
House of Commons

Yes, I have indeed installed the app. It has taken a significant time and a significant amount of wasted money to actually appear, but it has finally appeared and I would encourage all hon. and right hon. Members to download it.

Member
Nick Thomas-Symonds (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c397
House
House of Commons

I would like to point out to the hon. Member for Wycombe (Mr Baker) that the app actually works better in Wales, because all the tests can be properly downloaded in Wales, unlike in England. And while my hon. Friend the Member for Torfaen (Nick Thomas-Symonds) is at it, can...

Member
Chris Bryant (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c397
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The lesson with promises from this Government is that we always need them in writing, and even then they are not necessarily delivered.

Member
Nick Thomas-Symonds (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c397
House
House of Commons

He will be able to read it in Hansard in the morning.

Member
Matt Hancock (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c397
House
House of Commons

Moving swiftly on.

In England, the number of tests, the availability of tests and the turnaround time simply are not good enough. So dire is the situation that the Prime Minister is arguing with the Health Secretary over whether testing even matters. The Health Secretary has said that

“finding where the people...

Member
Nick Thomas-Symonds (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 cc397-9
House
House of Commons

I hope my hon. Friend agrees that the way the Secretary of State has approached this matter today is disappointing. Many of us sit on Select Committees and have scrutinised the way in which this Act has come forward, and are willing to spend more time doing that properly. That...

Member
Karin Smyth (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c399
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. She saves me from coming to another part of my speech. Quality scrutiny is available across the House on a cross-party basis, and we have had no credible explanation for why this debate is limited to 90 minutes.

The rights that I have referred to,...

Member
Nick Thomas-Symonds (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 cc399-400
House
House of Commons

I agree that 141 unlawful prosecutions—100% unlawful prosecutions —is completely unacceptable. In Scotland, the police have not been using the powers in schedule 21, so we have not had the same problem. Does the hon. Gentleman agree that we need fewer widely drawn powers, and that schedule 21 needs to...

Member
Joanna Cherry (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c400
House
House of Commons

The hon. and learned Lady is absolutely right. The problem comes with “potentially infected persons”. It is a very poorly drafted schedule, and that is why we are seeing these consequences. I urge the Health Secretary again to look at it.

As we tighten restrictions and ask for more sacrifices from...

Member
Nick Thomas-Symonds (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 cc400-1
House
House of Commons

Mr Speaker, may I begin by thanking you? Although you gave your reasons earlier for not selecting the amendments in my name and that of 80 other colleagues across the House, you also made your expectations of Government crystal clear. No one could doubt your commitment to upholding the Standing...

Member
Lord Brady of Altrincham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c401
House
House of Commons

Can the hon. Gentleman tell us what this new procedure is?

Member
Chris Bryant (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c402
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is an expert on procedure, and he will soon get to grips with it. It is the made affirmative procedure, which entails the setting of a commencement date in the future for measures, which will allow for a debate and vote to take place in advance of...

Member
Lord Brady of Altrincham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c402
House
House of Commons

But the Government decide.

Member
Chris Bryant (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c402
House
House of Commons

These things will be brought forward. We have had the assurance, and we will hold the Government to it. The hon. Gentleman will see it very soon.

I will close by thanking those Members across the House who, by supporting my amendment publicly or privately, have helped to achieve what I...

Member
Lord Brady of Altrincham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c402
House
House of Commons

I regret the fact that this is only a 90-minute debate. The Government should have ensured that a more appropriate amount of time was given. In that context, I will not do what I normally do; I apologise to Members, but because of time, I will not be taking interventions....

Member
Ian Blackford (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 cc402-4
House
House of Commons

indicated dissent.

Member
Matt Hancock (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c404
House
House of Commons

I can see the Secretary of State frowning, but, Secretary of State, that is the reality. People are going to lose their jobs and their livelihoods, and this Government are not prepared to do what they promised— to get their arms around those who were going to be affected.

The Tories...

Member
Ian Blackford (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c404
House
House of Commons

You’re obsessed by it.

Member
Lord Harper (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 September 2020
Reference
681 c405
House
House of Commons