Lords motion to direct that, in accordance with the Church of England Assembly (Powers) Act 1919, the Armed Forces Chaplains (Licensing) Measure be presented to His Majesty for the Royal Assent. Agreed to on question.

Lords motion to direct that, in accordance with the Church of England Assembly (Powers) Act 1919, the Armed Forces Chaplains (Licensing) Measure be presented to His Majesty for the Royal Assent. Agreed to on question.

My Lords, I shall speak also to the Abuse Redress Measure, which is also in my name on the Order Paper.

The Armed Forces Chaplains (Licensing) Measure is in one sense just a tidying up of a small area of ecclesiastical law, but in a wider and more important way it...

My Lords, I shall speak also to the Abuse Redress Measure, which is also in my name on the Order Paper.

The Armed Forces Chaplains (Licensing) Measure is in one sense just a tidying up of a small area of ecclesiastical law, but in a wider and more important way it...

My Lords, I thank the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Winchester for bringing these two Measures to your Lordships’ House. I will address the Abuse Redress Measure first.

This is yet another Measure that we have recently discussed in the Ecclesiastical Committee—one of a number of crucial pieces of legislation...

My Lords, I thank the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Winchester for bringing these two Measures to your Lordships’ House. I will address the Abuse Redress Measure first.

This is yet another Measure that we have recently discussed in the Ecclesiastical Committee—one of a number of crucial pieces of legislation...

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Harris, because she said almost everything that I was going to say, which is always a great help. I am the chair of the Ecclesiastical Committee, which is a Joint Committee of both Houses, with 30 members. We found it...

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Harris, because she said almost everything that I was going to say, which is always a great help. I am the chair of the Ecclesiastical Committee, which is a Joint Committee of both Houses, with 30 members. We found it...

My Lords, we welcome this Measure to further enable the important work of Anglican chaplains to His Majesty’s Armed Forces.

Chaplains provide unique pastoral care and the 195 Anglican Armed Forces chaplains are there for the benefit of service men and women of all faiths and none. His Majesty’s loyal...

My Lords, we welcome this Measure to further enable the important work of Anglican chaplains to His Majesty’s Armed Forces.

Chaplains provide unique pastoral care and the 195 Anglican Armed Forces chaplains are there for the benefit of service men and women of all faiths and none. His Majesty’s loyal...

My Lords, I am grateful for the various points raised—I was going to say questions too, but I am not sure there were any. I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Harris, for her helpful summary and to her and the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, for their...

My Lords, I am grateful for the various points raised—I was going to say questions too, but I am not sure there were any. I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Harris, for her helpful summary and to her and the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, for their...

Motions to consider. Agreed to on question.

Motions to consider. Agreed to on question.

Lords committee stage first day. Amendments discussed and withdrawn. Clause 1 agreed. Schedule 1 agreed. Clauses 2 to 5 agreed. Amendment 24 (to amendment 23) agreed. Amendment 23, as amended, withdrawn. Clauses 6 to 9 agreed. Clause 13 agreed.

Lords committee stage first day. Amendments discussed and withdrawn. Clause 1 agreed. Schedule 1 agreed. Clauses 2 to 5 agreed. Amendment 24 (to amendment 23) agreed. Amendment 23, as amended, withdrawn. Clauses 6 to 9 agreed. Clause 13 agreed.

I see the point the Minister is making. She referred to various age-verification systems. I do not know whether we are going to have any guidance from the Government when this Bill becomes law. I want to ensure that these products are not sold to young people, but equally I...

I see the point the Minister is making. She referred to various age-verification systems. I do not know whether we are going to have any guidance from the Government when this Bill becomes law. I want to ensure that these products are not sold to young people, but equally I...

Moved by

Lord Paddick

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 4, at end insert “without, in the case of a person charged in England and Wales or Northern Ireland (subject to section 2), having taken all reasonable precautions and exercised all due diligence to avoid the commission of the offence”

Member’s explanatory statement

This...

Moved by

Lord Paddick

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 4, at end insert “without, in the case of a person charged in England and Wales or Northern Ireland (subject to section 2), having taken all reasonable precautions and exercised all due diligence to avoid the commission of the offence”

Member’s explanatory statement

This...

My Lords, in moving Amendment 1, I will speak to the other amendments in the group in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee. These amendments seek to change the offences in the Bill from those where there is a reasonable excuse defence only when charged to...

My Lords, in moving Amendment 1, I will speak to the other amendments in the group in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee. These amendments seek to change the offences in the Bill from those where there is a reasonable excuse defence only when charged to...

Not being familiar with police procedures, to me the essence of the argument seems to be about when the defence is deployed. Can the noble Lord explain what that means in practical terms?

Not being familiar with police procedures, to me the essence of the argument seems to be about when the defence is deployed. Can the noble Lord explain what that means in practical terms?

My Lords, when the police are told that the offence is not committed if somebody has a reasonable excuse, the clear message sent to them is that they need to investigate the matter there and then to establish whether that reasonable excuse exists. If a Bill, as in this case,...

My Lords, when the police are told that the offence is not committed if somebody has a reasonable excuse, the clear message sent to them is that they need to investigate the matter there and then to establish whether that reasonable excuse exists. If a Bill, as in this case,...

My Lords, I support the Bill. The issue of the misuse of corrosive substances and all other kinds of offensive weapons is too obviously something that has to be addressed. However, I want to raise an issue which is troublesome in the context of the amendment.

Unless an offence is absolute—and...

My Lords, I support the Bill. The issue of the misuse of corrosive substances and all other kinds of offensive weapons is too obviously something that has to be addressed. However, I want to raise an issue which is troublesome in the context of the amendment.

Unless an offence is absolute—and...

My Lords, listening to the debate and the presentation of the amendment, I wonder how the amendments might protect the important relationships between young people and the police—maybe particularly between young people from ethnic minorities and the police. I can see that if the authorities have to do more work...

My Lords, listening to the debate and the presentation of the amendment, I wonder how the amendments might protect the important relationships between young people and the police—maybe particularly between young people from ethnic minorities and the police. I can see that if the authorities have to do more work...

My Lords, the Opposition are generally in favour of this Bill, but I find the arguments of the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, somewhat persuasive. I particularly like the way the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, put things in the general perspective of law. Even little deviations from sound general...

My Lords, the Opposition are generally in favour of this Bill, but I find the arguments of the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, somewhat persuasive. I particularly like the way the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, put things in the general perspective of law. Even little deviations from sound general...

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their points and the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for tabling these amendments. As he explained, they address the construction of the new offences relating to the

sale of corrosive products to under-18s, the prohibition on sending corrosive products to residential premises when bought...

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their points and the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for tabling these amendments. As he explained, they address the construction of the new offences relating to the

sale of corrosive products to under-18s, the prohibition on sending corrosive products to residential premises when bought...

This might have been dealt with before and I apologise if it has, but is a farmhouse a residential address? Farmers would certainly receive all sorts of corrosive products.

This might have been dealt with before and I apologise if it has, but is a farmhouse a residential address? Farmers would certainly receive all sorts of corrosive products.