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Motion that this House has considered international trade and geopolitics. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Darren Jones
Answering member
Gareth Thomas; Nusrat Ghani
Department
Department for Business and Trade
Type
Backbench debates
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 cc402-430
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,

That this House has considered international trade and geopolitics.

I thank right hon. and hon. Members from across the House, and the Backbench Business Committee for granting the debate today. I declare my interests as set out in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests.

I applied for this debate...

Member
Darren Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 cc402-3
House
House of Commons

It is a great pleasure to be part of this debate and to listen to the hon. Gentleman, and I hope he will not mind me picking him up on this point. He kindly acknowledged that the sizeable increase in UK debt is due to the response to covid, and...

Member
Richard Fuller (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c403
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman and I, perhaps surprisingly, share something in common, in that we would like to get the national debt under control. He will recognise that his party was in government for each of those years from 2010 when debt increased, year after year. The Opposition can come forward...

Member
Darren Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c403
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is making an extremely powerful case. Does he agree that geography still matters when it comes to trade, and if we as a country choose to make our trading arrangements with our biggest trading partner, which is still the European Union, more difficult, more costly and more...

Member
Hilary Benn (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c403
House
House of Commons

I think everybody recognises that that is completely right, and my right hon. Friend recognises that with both the European Union and the United States, the bulk of our trade exists in this bit of the planet in which we find ourselves. Trade with Asia is welcome, but it will...

Member
Darren Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c403
House
House of Commons

China’s growing assertiveness on the international stage is rightly cause for concern, and the CPTPP is an example of where the Government need to be cautious. If China is successful in joining, it could block Taiwan’s application in the face of growing tensions between the two. Does the hon. Gentleman...

Member
Margaret Ferrier (Independent (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c404
House
House of Commons

I thank the hon. Lady for giving that suggestion to those on the Treasury Bench, and perhaps the Minister can answer when she responds to the debate.

Member
Darren Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c404
House
House of Commons

rose—

Member
Richard Fuller (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c404
House
House of Commons

I have two examples that are relevant to intervention of the hon. Member for Rutherglen and Hamilton West (Margaret Ferrier), but I will give way one more time, for old times’ sake.

Member
Darren Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c404
House
House of Commons

It’s not that old-time! As the hon. Gentleman will realise, the Benches are not replete with Members for his debate, so I hope he will continue to be generous.

The hon. Gentleman has put his finger on an important issue, and this could be an informative debate on both sides. He...

Member
Richard Fuller (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c404
House
House of Commons

I will do so briefly so that I do not test the patience of the Chair too much, given the number of pages I have left to read before the end of my speech. My initial observations are that it is in the UK’s interest to be a global leader...

Member
Darren Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c404
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend share my concern that in pursuance of net zero and the decarbonisation agenda, the automotive industry, for example, faces significant challenges in ensuring not only that we have a self-contained supply chain, but that we can engage with the European Union on our doorstep given restrictions...

Member
Andy McDonald (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c404
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is exactly right, and electric vehicles are a prime example. He and I were in Sweden last week on a Select Committee visit to look at how its electric vehicle battery manufacturing looks in comparison with the UK. If we are to continue to

export cars to...

Member
Darren Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c404
House
House of Commons

May I cast the hon. Gentleman’s mind back to his comments about the CPTPP? The Northern Ireland constituency that I represent has a large farming and agricultural manufacturing sector, and we export right across the world. Businesses in my constituency tell me that they are looking forward to opportunities that...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c405
House
House of Commons

I have to take the hon. Gentleman’s suggestion at his word as he knows much more about his constituency and farming than I do. If there are export opportunities that is great, but the question is whether that will deliver the wholesale economic growth that we need across the whole...

Member
Darren Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 cc405-6
House
House of Commons

Was my hon. Friend not struck by the stark report on Sky News, I think from Ed Conway, from AMTE Power in Thurso, one of the British manufacturers of car batteries? It was indeed attracted by the Inflation Reduction Act, so much so that we risk that factory—a gigafactory we...

Member
Andy McDonald (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c406
House
House of Commons

Once again, my hon. Friend is absolutely right. That is why the European Union has responded to what is happening in America, but what do we have here in the United Kingdom? I tried to be generous to the Government in a collegiate fashion, but the only thing I could...

Member
Darren Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 cc406-7
House
House of Commons

Absolute rubbish.

Member
Richard Fuller (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 c407
House
House of Commons

It is a factual statement. The hon. Member is chuntering from a sedentary position, as I think we say in this House, but I can assure him and the House that on many occasions that is the exact conversation people have had with me.

I hope that the Minister, when she...

Member
Darren Jones (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 April 2023
Reference
731 cc407-8
House
House of Commons