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Crime and Security Bill. Lords second reading debate. Agreed to on question and committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

Lead member
Lord West of Spithead
Answering member
Lord Skelmersdale
Department
Home Office
Type
Debates on bills
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1225-78
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I first read the Bill in its original form as it started in the Commons. What struck me most, as I said to the Minister a week or two ago, was that there are so many alterations to recent legislation in it, including to some which is not...

Member
Baroness Hamwee (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1235-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his explanation of the Bill. I wish that I shared his enthusiasm for some of its provisions. This Home Office Bill, like some others, is a jumble of unconnected items, some of them barely different from legislation passed in the past Session, the...

Member
Baroness Neville-Jones (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1231-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we live in a country where crime is falling, and I glad to say that perception is slowly beginning to reflect that reality. Since 1997, overall crime as measured by the British Crime Survey has fallen by 36 per cent, including a 41 per cent fall in overall...

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1225-31
House
House of Lords
Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1225
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is a very strange Bill which appears to have lots of incidental measures in it and my contribution to Second Reading will be fairly brief. I intend to restrict my remarks to those about stop and search, but first I must declare my interest. I chaired a...

Member
Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1246-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, when I first came to the Bar, I thought of practising in the Chancery Division until a practitioner in it said to me, ““Intellect is favoured; audibility is frowned upon””. I hope that this evening I can ask for your Lordships’ patience while I muster such resources in...

Member
Lord Brennan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1244-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to speak briefly on this important Bill and in doing so I declare an interest as honorary president of both the Gun Trade Association and the British Shooting Sports Council. I am also a member of the Countryside Alliance. You will be delighted to...

Member
Earl of Shrewsbury (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1246
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in his opening speech, the Minister dealt at length with fingerprints and the retention of DNA samples, covered by Clauses 1 to 28 of the Bill. He was right to do so because they are clearly matters of great importance. However, I will confine myself to two matters...

Member
Lord Lloyd of Berwick (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1238-41
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of Berwick, has said, this Second Reading debate, coming when it does, gives us an opportunity to reflect, even though it may not do much else. We come towards the conclusion of a Parliament understandably preoccupied with security. The security...

Member
Lord Judd (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1255-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we have yet another Bill dealing with policing, crime, security and the judicial process. With that in mind, I was not surprised to read a letter in the Times this morning written by Paul Mendelle QC, the chairman of the Criminal Bar Association. He was talking about the...

Member
Lord Dear (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1252-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, since Parliament is soon to be dissolved, the Bill will not provide us with many days of sitting here, sometimes until late at night, pressing the Minister on the various clauses and engaging in spirited debate with him. That has been a most enjoyable activity, which we have...

Member
Baroness Stern (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1262-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this Bill covers many areas of importance that have a significant impact on our civil liberties and our fundamental human rights. These are the very principles on which our democracy was founded. I hope that this legislation will make a contribution to tackling the injustices in our society...

Member
Lord Sheikh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1259-62
House
House of Lords

My Lords, crime and security provisions go to the fundamental duty of any state to protect its citizens and to keep them safe. In my short address this evening, I intend to concentrate on three main areas: the retention of DNA, stop and search measures and, briefly, gang injunctions. The...

Member
Lord Mackenzie of Framwellgate (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1249-52
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my contribution to this debate will be short. I do not plan make a typical Second Reading speech, considering the broad span of the Bill, but in view of the time constraints and special circumstances of this Second Reading, I propose to focus exclusively on Clauses 42 to...

Member
Baroness Meacher (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1248-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this has been a very interesting debate and your Lordships’ thoughtful contributions have yet again demonstrated the impressive depth of knowledge in this House on a whole raft of important issues. I hope noble Lords will forgive me if in the time available I do not respond to...

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1270-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, with this Bill we are in a somewhat weird position. The noble Baroness, Lady Harris, regarded it as strange. To use an inelegant phrase that I learnt many years ago: same difference. Any Bill must have a Second Reading in the Second House to have any chance of...

Member
Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1267-70
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the Minister said that crime is falling. That is not disputed, but the fact remains that the fear of crime is greater than crime itself. Public perception is shaped by the quality of legislation that we promote and how it is implemented by the criminal justice agencies. It...

Member
Lord Dholakia (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1263-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as the progress of this Bill has adequately demonstrated, legislating in the realms of crime and security can be a hazardous business at the best of times. In Holy Week, when Christians follow the fortunes of probably the most famous victim of injustice in the history of the...

Member
Bishop of Lincoln (Bishops (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
718 c1241-4
House
House of Lords

In part, the answer is cultural and I will come on to that, as we need to consider it. However, we went to France to take some evidence last September, and we found that, instead of what was considered to be steady consumption, binge drinking by young people is increasing...

Member
Kevin Barron (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 March 2010
Reference
507 c312
House
House of Commons