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Debate on a motion to support the Government's decisions, as set out in Cm 6994, to maintain the the UK's minimum strategic nuclear deterrent. Amendment negatived on division (413 to 167). Main question agreed on division (409 to 161).

Lead member
Baroness Beckett
Answering member
Lord Hague of Richmond
Department
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Type
Debates
Notes
Daily part printing error - in col. 405, insert "Salter, Martin" in the "Ayes".
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c298-407, (corrigendum) 794;458 c298-407
House
House of Commons

No, I must get on. The deterrent is not an alternative to diplomacy. We will keep pushing for multilateral disarmament, keep working through the United Nations to prevent proliferation of nuclear weapons, and keep encouraging nuclear weapon-free zones, including in the middle east. The wider goal of our diplomacy remains...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c306-7
House
House of Commons

I am sorry to have to say this to my hon. Friend, but that is complete and utter rubbish. We are not here to make a decision about a vastly enhanced system. I must also say to him in all seriousness that if he wants to encourage the idea that...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c305
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is entirely right. Some who have commented on these issues have perhaps been misled—this brings me back to my point about the transparency with which the Government have pursued the issue—because in the past the conceptual and design stages have often been pursued behind closed doors. The...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c306
House
House of Commons

The whole purpose of the scrutiny to which the hon. Member for Gainsborough (Mr. Leigh), who chairs the Public Accounts Committee, referred is to make sure that that is not the case. I think that my hon. Friend will find a reference in the White Paper to the costs of...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c307
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is entirely right and, if I may say so, displays her engineering expertise and understanding of how the industry works. The decision to be made by the House is not on anything other than the political, strategic and security needs of the country. However, it is also...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c307
House
House of Commons

That depends, of course, on whether the House votes for this motion. If it does, we are committing ourselves to making that reduction by the end of this year. I hope that that is a reassurance to my hon. Friend. [Interruption.] There is no need for a window; the window...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c300
House
House of Commons

Yes indeed. I welcome that, as will the whole House. We rely on the Committee chaired by the hon. Gentleman to sustain that scrutiny. Since the non-proliferation treaty came into force in 1970, all nuclear weapons states have taken steps to maintain their deterrents. The decisions on which we are...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c299-300
House
House of Commons

I shall give way to the hon. Member for Gainsborough (Mr. Leigh), then I shall make progress.

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c299
House
House of Commons

My right hon. Friend will know that that question was raised with the Prime Minister a few moments ago and he answered it clearly. It is the decision of principle that we are required to make today. It is inevitable that there will be future discussions, and there will be...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c299
House
House of Commons

Let me first say to the hon. Gentleman that, as I have already pointed out, we have been disarming over the course of the past 10 years, with singularly little response. There is therefore no evidence whatever for the notion that if we defer this decision, that will somehow magically...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c301
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,"That this House supports the Government’s decisions, as set out in the White Paper The Future of the United Kingdom’s Nuclear Deterrent (Cm 6994), to take the steps necessary to maintain the UK’s minimum strategic nuclear deterrent beyond the life of the existing system and to take...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c298
House
House of Commons

The United States submarines are different from our own. They are differently designed, they have a different design life and so on. That may have been the conclusion of American work; it is not the conclusion of the work that has been done in this country.

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c299
House
House of Commons

As my hon. Friend is aware, we are not making any decision about the warheads in this Parliament, so the matter will inevitably come before a subsequent Parliament. The decisions that we are asked to make today are serious and weighty, and they are being put before the House following...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c299
House
House of Commons

We are working on deterring Iran and North Korea from pursuing their present course of action by other, diplomatic, means, as I hope the House would want. I sincerely hope that everyone in the House wants those negotiations to succeed, and wants North Korea and Iran to be deterred from...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c304
House
House of Commons

I shall come to the proportion of the costs in a few moments. I do not think that the two issues that the hon. Gentleman has raised are mutually incompatible. It is necessary, as he says, to consider the range of threats that this country faces, and the Government are...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c304
House
House of Commons

If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I do not intend to get drawn down the path of discussing other technologies. We have quite enough to do in dealing with the one that we have in the course of this debate.

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c304
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes an extremely powerful point, and he makes it well. It is indeed the case that the decision of principle that we are being asked to make today could set the course for future Parliaments if we were to reject the motion before the House.

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c305
House
House of Commons

If my hon. Friend will forgive me, I must make some progress. The time scale we must address is not just the next 10 or 15 years, and it does not involve current or recent developments. We are talking about maintaining our ability to keep a minimum independent nuclear deterrent...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c305
House
House of Commons

I can certainly give my hon. Friend that assurance without any difficulty. The next step that we hope to take is to bring forward negotiations on the fissile material cut-off treaty. He is also absolutely right that it is extremely important to work with other states that are known to...

Member
Baroness Beckett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 March 2007
Reference
458 c301
House
House of Commons