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Medical Devices (In Vitro Diagnostic Devices etc.) (Amendment) Regulations 2024

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Lords motion to consider. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Lord Markham
Answering member
Baroness Merron
Department
Department of Health and Social Care
Type
Debates on delegated legislation
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 cc465-474GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to be here today to debate these important regulations. Before I begin, I draw the attention of noble Lords to my entry in the register of interests regarding my shareholding in a company which conducts private sector health screening.

To discuss this SI effectively, I must...

Member
Lord Markham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 cc465-7GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I should declare that my son is a cardiologist and founder of Rhythm AI and Echopoint Medical—I think those medical devices do not completely fall within the scope of this, but I declare it anyway just in case.

It is notable that the medical devices road map from the...

Member
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 cc466-8GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was grateful to the Minister for his description of in vitro devices, which is not necessarily obvious from the regulations. I hope that he can confirm that the “in vitro” bit is misleading; we are talking about lots of tests that are done in plastic and no...

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Lord Allan of Hallam (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 cc468-470GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I also thank the Minister for setting out the provisions in the regulations and for trying to unravel the many pages before us. This seems to be one of those innocuous measures that are needed just because that is where we are, but I very much take on...

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Baroness Merron (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 cc469-471GC
House
House of Lords

I thank noble Lords for their contributions and the spirit in which they were made in terms of helpfulness and trying to make the market as open and productive as possible.

I shall try to answer the questions in turn. To the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, I say, yes, this is...

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Lord Markham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 cc471-2GC
House
House of Lords

The “CE” mark recognition is an example of one-way recognition, not mutual recognition, because it does not go the other way.

Member
Lord Allan of Hallam (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 c472GC
House
House of Lords

Absolutely. Clearly, we would like it both ways, for obvious reasons. There are a number of areas where we are still being open about our rules—not just to the EU but to other countries as well, with the hope that there is some reciprocation down the line. That is definitely...

Member
Lord Markham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 c472GC
House
House of Lords

May I intervene before the Minister moves off the subject of mutual recognition? Perhaps I may clarify whether he envisages this being similar to the Orbis project for drug approval recognition, particularly regarding oncology and cancer drugs, where FDA approval is recognised. There are different levels, so that things can...

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Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 c472GC
House
House of Lords

I am probably not qualified to speak specifically about the Orbis project read-across but, at the general level, that is definitely the direction of travel, if you speak to the MHRA. As I said, there are almost two levels to it. The complete level is where you just take it...

Member
Lord Markham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 cc472-3GC
House
House of Lords

It does; that was a helpful and clear explanation. However, if somebody has tweaked their test for Northern Ireland and they also want to sell to the EU, are they able to do so? For example, can they send it south of the border into the EU? Or would that...

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Lord Allan of Hallam (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 c473GC
House
House of Lords

My understanding of all this—again, I will tell the noble Lord to the best of my knowledge and correct it if I am wrong—is that we always used to tweak it when we were part of the EU. It was generally accepted that we would tweak a bit, and so...

Member
Lord Markham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 February 2024
Reference
835 cc473-4GC
House
House of Lords

Motion to consider. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Andrew Stephenson
Answering member
Preet Kaur Gill
Department
Department of Health and Social Care
Type
Debates on delegated legislation; Delegated Legislation Committee proceedings
Committee
Third Delegated Legislation Committee
Date
16 January 2024
House
House of Commons
Laid by
Helen Whately
Department
Department of Health and Social Care
Type
Statutory instruments
Date
14 November 2023
Reference
SI 2024/221; 2023/
House
House of Lords; House of Commons