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Letter dated 07/07/2022 from Baroness Stedman-Scott to Peers regarding points raised in the Social Security (Additional Payments) Bill debate: time required to uprate all benefits, support for children, payments to those without bank accounts, suspending deductions, Warm Home Discount, minimum income floor, and difference in Pension Credit claimants between two...

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Department for Work and Pensions
Type
Deposited papers
Date
7 July 2022
Reference
DEP2022-0605
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this Bill is clearly welcome. It is a good thing that cost of living payments can be made to those who most need them, so the policy is a good one. There are obviously a number of ways that this could be addressed—some potentially more effective than others—but...

Member
Earl of Clancarty (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 cc476-8
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for giving way. On the concern I raised about the minimum income floor and fluctuating incomes, can the Government keep an eye on this? It would be very helpful if the noble Baroness could promise to do that. She says that it is very simple, but...

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Earl of Clancarty (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 c486
House
House of Lords

Statement on legislative consent. Lords second reading. Agreed to on question. Committee negatived. Standing Order 44 having been dispensed with, Lords third reading. Passed.

Lead member
Baroness Stedman-Scott
Answering member
Baroness Sherlock
Department
Department for Work and Pensions
Type
Debates on bills
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 cc471-488
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the Government are fully aware of the acute pressures that families across the UK are under due to the rising cost of living. This is why we have brought forward this important Bill to your Lordships’ House.

A series of global economic shocks have led to price rises unseen...

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Baroness Stedman-Scott (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 cc471-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the much-needed additional support that this Bill offers and the recognition that the social security system represents the obvious mechanism for providing it, despite concerns that are raised about the nature of the support. I am grateful to the Minister and the Minister for Welfare Delivery...

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Baroness Lister of Burtersett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 cc472-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I should first explain that my noble friends Lady Kramer and Lady Janke, who normally speak on these issues, are unable to attend today so your Lordships have me instead.

This is a small and, in a sense, relatively modest Bill that we do not oppose—indeed, we cannot oppose...

Member
Lord Fox (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 cc477-480
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her introduction to the Bill and all noble Lords who have spoken. I thank my noble friend Lady Lister for halving the length of my speech by her excellent analysis. I would be really interested to hear the Minister’s response because, as a...

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Baroness Sherlock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 cc480-3
House
House of Lords

I thank all noble Lords for their contributions to the debate today. I hope we agree that this package of support will make a significant difference to families up and down the country, notwithstanding the points that have been made.

As I said earlier, the Government are committed to going further...

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Baroness Stedman-Scott (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 cc483-4
House
House of Lords

I am sorry to interrupt the Minister. Clearly, we cannot amend this legislation but I think it is accepted across the House that there is nothing in here for children. Can she take that message back to her colleagues in government and could they look at other ways they might...

Member
Baroness Lister of Burtersett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 c484
House
House of Lords

I am always happy to take things back to the department and am quite prepared to do that. I may need a little more information from the noble Baroness, but I am sure that will be forthcoming.

The next review of the benefit cap has been raised. As all noble Lords...

Member
Baroness Stedman-Scott (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 cc484-5
House
House of Lords

I am very happy to go back to the department and request that. I am not in a position to commit to doing it, but I will go back and write to the noble Earl with the outcome of those discussions.

Another important point that the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, raised...

Member
Baroness Stedman-Scott (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 cc486-7
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for giving way. I appreciate the spirited defence of the measures that the Minister has just made. I am assuming that the Prime Minister was fully aware of what the Government are planning in terms of support when he spoke on Friday. On Friday, the Prime...

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Lord Fox (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 c487
House
House of Lords

I agree that the Government have made great strides in providing additional finance. If my Prime Minister said that we need to do more, he was not saying that we are not

doing enough. This will probably get me into trouble, but he would be daft to say that we...

Member
Baroness Stedman-Scott (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 c487
House
House of Lords

Oh!

Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 c488
House
House of Lords

On the impact of the cost of living crisis on poverty, the latest available poverty statistics cover 2021 and projecting what has happened to poverty since then is complex and inherently speculative. It requires projecting how incomes will change for every individual in society; these are affected by a huge...

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Baroness Stedman-Scott (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 c488
House
House of Lords

Essentially, noble Lords all around the House have said, “This system is so simple but it’s creating rough justice. What will the Minister do?” The Minister’s answer is, “Give us rough justice, but that’s because the system is so simple”. All that everybody has asked today is, does the Minister...

Member
Baroness Sherlock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 c488
House
House of Lords

I cannot accurately answer that question because I honestly do not know, but I do know that, all the way through Covid and this cost of living crisis, the Government have responded at different times to issues raised in relation to additional support. All I can say is that I...

Member
Baroness Stedman-Scott (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 c488
House
House of Lords

No.

Member
Baroness Sherlock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 c488
House
House of Lords

We will have to invent a board game for the Chamber. I know that I have not answered some questions, and I am sorry, but time is marching on. I will endeavour to write to all noble Lords whose questions I have not answered and to those to whom I...

Member
Baroness Stedman-Scott (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 June 2022
Reference
823 c488
House
House of Lords