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Letter dated 18/03/2021 from Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay to Baroness Burt of Solihull regarding school places and free school meals, as discussed during the Report Stage of the Domestic Abuse Bill. 3p.

Deposited by
Cabinet Office
Type
Deposited papers
Date
18 March 2021
Reference
DEP2021-0257
House
House of Lords

Lords report stage first day. Amendment 4 to clause 2 agreed to on division (318 votes to 234). Amendments 5 and 6 to clause 2 agreed to. New clause, after clause 15, debated and withdrawn. Government new clause, after clause 16, agreed to. New clause, after clause 16, debated and...

Lead member
Baroness Williams of Trafford; Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay; Lord Wolfson of Tredegar
Department
Home Office; Ministry of Justice
Type
Debates on bills
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1317-1398
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I speak personally in this debate. It is a privilege and a pleasure to follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern, because I remember 1996. I was in the Chamber as a newly appointed Peer and remember very well Lord Jakobovits, who was quite a...

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1322-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a privilege to speak to the amendments tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann. I am not Jewish, but as a woman of faith I appreciate the complexities detailed in the amendments. I am grateful to all organisations which have kept us fully briefed throughout the...

Member
Baroness Uddin (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1323-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise to speak to the amendment tabled in my name and kindly supported by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern, the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann, and the noble Earl, Lord Lytton, which I very much hope the Government will consider positively.

The reason I was...

Member
Baroness Meyer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1333-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the amendments in this group seek once again to put parental alienation both in capitals and in the Bill. The noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, has again outlined her reasons for this. However, I do not hear any difference in objective from the amendments tabled in Committee. Those of...

Member
Baroness Brinton (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1334-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have supported this amendment on the basis that it shows what the general definitions reveal and include. I do not think that it will be necessary to pursue it, if we have a clear understanding that the sort of behaviour that the noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, has...

Member
Lord Mackay of Clashfern (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1336-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as one would expect, that was a fascinating contribution. In some ways, it answers a lot of my questions. I am completely behind the purpose of this amendment. To my mind, as someone who is experienced but not expert, there is nothing about the phrases in Clause 1(3)(c)...

Member
Lord Lucas (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1337
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my support for this amendment comes without the personal experience of the noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, or the legal expertise of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern. Like him, I hope that this amendment is unnecessary in reality. I cannot proceed without paying tribute to...

Member
Earl of Lytton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1337-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I agree with the Government’s decision to keep a broad definition of domestic abuse. I believe that the coercive nature of alienation is covered in the Bill, so I am afraid that I do not consider this amendment necessary. However, having not spoken on this issue in

Committee,...

Member
Baroness Sanderson of Welton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1339-1340
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I speak against Amendment 2 as I did against the comparable amendment in Committee. I also express my opposition to the inclusion of alienating behaviour in the statutory guidance.

In Committee, having begun examining the issue of claims of parental alienation with an open mind, I focused particularly on...

Member
Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1340-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, that was a very powerful speech in favour of the aims of the amendment. At the end of the last debate in Committee when I spoke I said that I was somewhat ambivalent, although I totally supported what my noble friend Lady Meyer was seeking to do. That...

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1341-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support this amendment in the name of noble Baroness, Lady Meyer. I thank her for all the work she has done to try to minimise the amount of involvement in the Bill necessary to make us all aware of this important issue. The amendment is designed to...

Member
Baroness Watkins of Tavistock (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1343-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have added my name to this amendment and I pay tribute to my noble friend Lady Meyer for the work that she has done and, as my noble friend Lord Cormack said, the effort that she has put in to trying to make sure that the suffering...

Member
Baroness Altmann (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1344-5
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Meyer

2: Clause 1, page 2, line 12, at end insert “, such as a parent’s behaviour deliberately designed to damage the relationship between a child of the parent and the other parent.”

Member
Baroness Meyer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1333
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the House for its indulgence. I apologise, because my internet connection collapsed completely during the speech of the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, and I missed a great deal of what she said.

Parental divorce or separation is the second most prevalent adverse event during childhood. There is...

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1355-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am terribly sorry to interrupt the noble and learned Baroness, but I think she may be speaking to a later

amendment, which we will reach in the ninth group. We are currently speaking to the amendment in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, on parental...

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1352-3
House
House of Lords

Although I have the deepest sympathy for those who have suffered this unjust behaviour from the other spousal partner, I do not believe that the amendment, for all its good intentions, should be part of the Bill or should be set in primary legislation. It is telling the judges to...

Member
Baroness Butler-Sloss (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1353
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was very distressed during Committee on the Bill at the way the House has become so polarised over this amendment. I believe a way can and should be found to do justice to both sides of the argument, for both raise real and serious concerns.

Clearly the term...

Member
Lord Harries of Pentregarth (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1353-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have listened carefully to the speech of my noble friend Lady Meyer and to those who support the amendment. I recognise their sincerity and good intentions and their desire to do the right thing for the victims of abuse and, above all, for children. But I am...

Member
Baroness Helic (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1354-5
House
House of Lords

The noble Baroness is now speaking to the amendment that comes in the next group. If she would constrain her remarks to the amendments in the first group, that would be appreciated.

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1324
House
House of Lords

Later in this Bill, we will be discussing the role of Cafcass and the family court in instructing contact with children, which calibrates comprehensive briefing, and must always ensure that the protection and well-being of children are at the forefront of any discussions. Although I recognise the important and useful...

Member
Baroness Uddin (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1325
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I take part briefly in this debate because I was moved by what my noble friend Lady Altmann said in Committee. I go by one abiding conviction: we are all equal under the law and every subject of Her Majesty the Queen deserves the same consideration, the same...

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1325
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I speak in support of this group of amendments, which I have signed. I associate myself with the excellent speech of the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann, and my colleagues.

I also thank the Minister and the noble Baroness, Lady Williams, and the officials of the domestic abuse commissioner...

Member
Lord Mendelsohn (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1325-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to listen to and follow my noble friend Lord Mendelsohn and the other sponsors of these amendments.

I wish to make two brief points. The first is that whenever there is an unequivocal imbalance in power relations, that affects behaviour. The behaviour relayed to me...

Member
Lord Mann (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1327-8
House
House of Lords

It is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Mann, who, as a non-Jew, has done, and continues to do, so much in the fight against anti-Semitism.

The well-informed debate in Committee was a good one and today’s debate has been just as important and impressive. I am delighted to...

Member
Lord Polak (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1328
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I speak to show support from these Benches for the amendments. They relate to Jewish law but there are many women who, for many reasons, are effectively prevented from leaving a failed marriage because their spouse unreasonably decides to prevent them moving on with their lives. Just one...

Member
Lord Paddick (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1328-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Labour is happy to support this group of amendments but recognises the realities of abuse that different communities face. We must ensure that what is in the Bill works in practice for victims of all backgrounds in the UK.

The technical aspects of the amendments have been described powerfully...

Member
Baroness Wilcox of Newport (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1329-1330
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Altmann for tabling these amendments. As a number of speakers have said, it is particularly apt that we are debating this on International Women’s Day. The quality of speeches in this debate is a testament to the strength of feeling...

Member
Lord Wolfson of Tredegar (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1330-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for his remarks, and am truly humbled by the widespread support across the House for the sentiments and intent of these amendments. Every noble Lord who spoke supported this group of amendments. I hope that, on International Women’s Day, this will help promote...

Member
Baroness Altmann (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1333
House
House of Lords

It is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann. That speech was so well articulated, passionate and thought-provoking. I also echo and “Hear, hear” her comments on the exemplary work of the noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, on this issue.

I have previously expressed concern that the Bill expands the...

Member
Baroness Fox of Buckley (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1345-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to say it is beyond argument that this is an important Bill. In my professional career, I dealt with many cases of child abuse. I practised at the criminal Bar, not the family Bar. Fortunately, sitting as a recorder, I did not have to...

Member
Lord Morris of Aberavon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1346
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I commend my noble friend Lady Meyer on her courage and resilience in tabling this amendment again today. I first had the privilege of meeting her and hearing her story many

years ago, and since then she has been a tireless campaigner on this issue despite, as we...

Member
Baroness Stroud (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1346-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too wish to pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, for her two decades of campaigning after a horrific experience that most people would not be able to turn into such a positive contribution. I wish her, the co-signatories to the amendment and all Members of...

Member
Baroness Chakrabarti (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1349-1350
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support the purpose of this amendment, and in doing so I also pay tribute to the work of the noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, on this matter. She has been consistent in her determined efforts to ensure that the impact on children is not forgotten in debates on...

Member
Lord Curry of Kirkharle (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1350-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I spoke in support of my noble friend Lady Meyer’s amendment in Committee and do so again. I congratulate my noble friend Lord Cormack, for I agreed with his every word.

I continue to read, and I continue to listen. The arguments have been well made, and again I...

Member
Lord Polak (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1351
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have no hesitation in supporting the aims of this amendment standing in the name of my friend, the noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, and others. I feel very strongly that we

will listen—I certainly will—to what the Minister is going to say, because there are difficulties. I have...

Member
Baroness Hoey (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1351-2
House
House of Lords

I think we might have lost the connection to the noble Baroness, Lady Hoey, so we will go to the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss.

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1352
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I understand and sympathise with those who have been the victims of a spouse or partner who has turned the children of their family against them—of course it takes place. It is an intensely sad situation, deeply unfair to the children as well as to the victim parent.

As...

Member
Baroness Butler-Sloss (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1352
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the Ministers involved have done a great service by listening to the Members who have put forward these amendments. I am pleased to support all the amendments in this group, to which I have put my name.

By accepting the need to stigmatise husbands who behave unreasonably in not...

Member
Baroness Deech (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1322
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Altmann

1: Clause 1, page 2, line 3, at end insert—

“(f) unreasonable prevention or threat of prevention of dissolution of a religious Jewish marriage via a religious bill of divorce (a “get”);”

Member’s explanatory statement

This specifically itemises one spouse unreasonably preventing the dissolution of a Jewish religious marriage with a...

Member
Baroness Altmann (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1318
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will also speak to the other amendments in this group in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, and the noble Lords, Lord Mendelsohn and Lord Palmer. I am grateful for their cross-party support.

These amendments relate to a particular form of abuse which has...

Member
Baroness Altmann (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1318-1320
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have signed all the amendments in this group, which have been signed by noble Lords from the Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat parties and the Cross Benches—not very usual. As the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann, said so very clearly, all these amendments relate to a spouse—usually the...

Member
Lord Palmer of Childs Hill (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1320-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I first came across the problem with which Amendment 1 deals when I was promoting the divorce Act in 1996 and I was assisted in great measure by my late friend Lord Jakobovits, who was then the Chief Rabbi.

The problem arises, as has been explained, for a person...

Member
Lord Mackay of Clashfern (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1321-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, on this International Women’s Day, I pay tribute to the courage of and thank my noble friend Lady Meyer, and other noble Lords, for their continued engagement on this issue. As pointed out by the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries of Pentregarth, parental alienation clearly proved...

Member
Baroness Williams of Trafford (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1358-1361
House
House of Lords

My Lords, first, I would like to thank those who put their names to my amendment: my noble and learned friend Lord Mackay, my noble friend Lady Altmann and the noble Earl, Lord Lytton. I also thank everybody who spoke today, particularly those who spoke in favour of the amendment....

Member
Baroness Meyer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1361-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in moving Amendment 4 to Clause 2 I will also speak to my Amendments 5 and 6. These amendments would bring the abuse of disabled people by carers within the scope of domestic abuse under Clause 2. I should mention that I have also tabled Amendments 46 and...

Member
Baroness Campbell of Surbiton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1362-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell, and to support her in her wish to include carers within the scope of the Bill. As she said, this set of amendments would bring the relationship between a disabled person and their carer, whether paid...

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1363-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too thank the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell, for tabling these amendments, and am grateful for the earlier work done by the noble Baroness, Lady Grey-Thompson.

I will start by commenting on the relationship between a disabled person and their carer. It is difficult for someone who is not...

Member
Baroness Brinton (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1365-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton. As International Women’s Day draws to a close, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton, for introducing what is surely a practical, common sense set of amendments. She has identified a significant gap in protections...

Member
Lord Shinkwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1366-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a privilege to take part in this debate on these amendments so well introduced by the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton, and subsequent speakers, particularly my noble friend Lord Shinkwin.

I feel in many respects vastly underqualified to speak on these amendments. Reading the Committee stage...

Member
Lord Randall of Uxbridge (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1367
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am delighted to support the amendment in the name of my noble friend Lady Campbell of Surbiton, to which my name is also attached. I, too, thank Stay Safe for its support in getting the experiences of disabled women into public view. My noble friend and other...

Member
Baroness Grey-Thompson (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1368-9
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton

4: Clause 2, page 2, line 29, at end insert—

“( ) A is a carer for B who is a disabled person.”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment and the amendments at page 2, lines 34 and 37, in the name of Baroness Campbell of Surbiton, would bring the...

Member
Baroness Campbell of Surbiton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1362
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in Committee, we heard the very moving testimony of the noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, whose children were abducted by their father and kept in Germany with very little contact between them and their mother. It appears that, during that separation, the father turned the children against her. It...

Member
Lord Paddick (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1356-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I remind the House that I sit as a family magistrate in central London and regularly deal with these types of cases. I have to say that this has been a better debate than the one we had in Committee. The reason is that many of the speakers...

Member
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1357-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support Amendments 7, 8 and 9, tabled by my noble friend Lady Stroud. Why? Because unborn children and small babies are as much at risk of domestic abuse as any other child, yet they have been largely excluded from this Bill. There seems to be no specific...

Member
Baroness Meyer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1387-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support all the amendments in this group. I declare my interests as an officer of the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Conception to Age Two, and, like the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud, I have the privilege of being a member of Andrea Leadsom’s taskforce. We will be producing...

Member
Lord Russell of Liverpool (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1388-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I speak to the amendments in the name of my noble friend Lady Stroud, because I fully support the essence of what she is trying to do.

This is supposed to be a landmark Bill and hopefully by the end of all the proceedings we will have one. But...

Member
Baroness Newlove (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1389-1390
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud, has summarised some of the extensive research which associates abuse—including emotional abuse—of mothers during pregnancy with resulting poor outcomes for the child. What happens to children in utero may affect them for the rest of their lives and cause longer-term developmental delays and...

Member
Baroness Hollins (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1390-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have rarely heard a series of more moving speeches, beginning with that of the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton; she always speaks with authority but today she exceeded herself. I was moved too by the noble Baroness, Lady Grey-Thompson, whom I have the privilege of following,...

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1369-1370
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow so many eminent speakers. I support these amendments, which have been carefully designed and described by my noble friends Lady Campbell of Surbiton and Lady Grey-Thompson, together with the noble Lord, Lord Shinkwin, and the noble Baroness, Lady Wilcox of Newport.

We have...

Member
Baroness Watkins of Tavistock (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1370
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Watkins. I declare an interest as vice-president of Livability.

I very much support the intent in this group of amendments tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton, who presented the case so ably at the beginning...

Member
Lord Curry of Kirkharle (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1370-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell, and other noble Lords, including my noble friend Lord Shinkwin and the noble Baroness, Lady Grey-Thompson, who have spoken in favour of these amendments. They seek to ensure that domestic abuse, as defined in Clause 2(1), covers those people...

Member
Baroness Altmann (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1371-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I know from my personal family and professional experience of people with learning disabilities that domestic violence can involve both paid and informal carers, including family members. I will not repeat the excellent points made by the noble Lord, Lord Curry. I am very pleased to support my...

Member
Baroness Hollins (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1372
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow all the speeches already given, because these important amendments close a loophole in our current framework. They do not criminalise carers; let us be clear about that. They simply recognise the reality that, when a person is living in their own home...

Member
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1372-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, these amendments seek to bring the relationship between a disabled person and their carer within the definition of “personally connected” for the purposes of the Bill, and we support them.

As the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton, explained so clearly, as someone who is supported by personal care...

Member
Lord Paddick (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1373-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I speak in support of this group of amendments. It is humbling to add my name and be among such a campaigning and dynamic group of Peers. The clause as amended would bring the relationship between a disabled person and their carer within the definition of “personally connected”...

Member
Baroness Wilcox of Newport (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1374-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Campbell of Surbiton and Lady Grey-Thompson, for introducing these amendments that seek to expand the definition of “personally connected” in Clause 2. I am very grateful to have had the opportunity to meet them ahead of Report to discuss their amendments.

To answer...

Member
Baroness Williams of Trafford (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1375-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, first, I thank the Minister for her reply, although I am deeply disappointed. I thank all noble Lords for their support and their powerful application of the issues I tried to address in my contribution, which explained the aims of this amendment. I have been on a long...

Member
Baroness Campbell of Surbiton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1377-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 7 and the corresponding group in my name. I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Armstrong and Lady Finlay, and the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern, for their support for these amendments.

I also thank my noble friend the Minister for...

Member
Baroness Stroud (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1383-5
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton

5: Clause 2, page 2, line 34, at end insert—

““carer” means an adult who provides care, whether paid or unpaid;”

Member’s explanatory statement

See the explanatory statement for the amendment at page 2, line 29 in the name of Baroness Campbell of Surbiton.

6: Clause 2, page 2, line...

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Baroness Campbell of Surbiton (Crossbench)
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8 March 2021
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810 cc1379-1383
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Moved by

Baroness Stroud

7: Clause 3, page 3, line 3, after “abuse,” insert “including in utero exposure,”

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Baroness Stroud (Conservative)
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8 March 2021
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810 c1383
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My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud, for leading on this important aspect of domestic abuse, clearly laying out the high incidence of abuse when a woman is pregnant and the many harms associated with it. I declare that I chair the Commission on Alcohol Harm....

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Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench)
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Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1385-6
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My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 7, 8, 9, 78 and 90, which I support. Naming babies and the unborn in the Bill should lead parents to get the help that they need at a crucial time; otherwise they are in danger of remaining invisible when it comes to...

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Lord McColl of Dulwich (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
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8 March 2021
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810 c1386
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My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud, for leading on these amendments, with the aim of highlighting the impact of domestic abuse on babies, including exposure in utero, and to meet the needs of babies and parents in the first 1,001 days before babies reach the age of...

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Baroness Watkins of Tavistock (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
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810 cc1386-7
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My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to the debate on this amendment, but especially the noble Baronesses, Lady Armstrong and Lady Finlay, and the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern, for their contributions. Their contributions were moving, constructive and hugely valuable. For me too,...

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Baroness Stroud (Conservative)
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Date
8 March 2021
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810 c1397
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House of Lords

My Lords, we still have another nine groups of amendments to cover if we are to hit today’s target for the first day of Report. Given that we will need to sit late in order to try and do that, I suggest that now might be an appropriate time for...

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Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1398
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House of Lords

My Lords, I strongly support Amendments 7, 8, 9, 78 and 90. We have heard the very informed opinions of my brethren, including the ladies, about the dangers that exist at the beginning of life, including the time that a child is in utero, from the effects of domestic abuse...

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Lord Mackay of Clashfern (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
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810 c1391
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House of Lords

My Lords, I am going to be very disciplined in this Bill—some people may say that that is a bit unusual for me—and

speak only to those things that are not part of the criminal justice system. I am concerned that overall the Bill has been dominated by the criminal...

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Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1391-2
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My Lords, unlike the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud, and other noble Lords who have spoken so knowledgeably, as probably became apparent in Committee, children and babies are not my area of expertise, apart from being a mother and a grandmother myself—so that is one small qualification greater than the noble...

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Baroness Burt of Solihull (Liberal Democrat)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 c1393
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House of Lords

My Lords, when, initiated by the noble Baroness, Lady Stroud, and my noble friend Lady Armstrong of Hill Top, these issues were debated in Committee, the Government argued that the need for statutory agencies to recognise and respond to the impact of domestic abuse on children of all ages is

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Lord Rosser (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
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810 cc1393-4
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My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Stroud for affording us the further opportunity to debate the impact of domestic abuse on very young children and unborn babies. The noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, made an important point about alcohol as a trigger for domestic abuse and the effect of...

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Baroness Williams of Trafford (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
8 March 2021
Reference
810 cc1394-6
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House of Lords

My Lords, in moving Amendment 164 on behalf of my noble friend Lady Royall, I will also speak to my Amendment 177B. My noble friend is extremely sorry that she is not able to speak today due to a long-standing and immovable commitment. My remarks very much reflect her views...

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Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc359-362
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House of Lords

My Lords, I am pleased to move Amendment 173 in my name in this group of amendments.

It is a fact that domestic abuse disproportionately impacts women. More than one in four women in England and Wales will experience it at some point in their lives, compared with one in eight...

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Baroness Gale (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc412-4
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House of Lords

My Lords, Amendment 185 in my name is a modest, simple amendment that would require the statutory guidance

to take account of the Government’s violence against women and girls strategy alongside the existing requirement that the guidance takes account of the fact that the majority of domestic abuse victims and...

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Baroness Lister of Burtersett (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc413-6
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House of Lords

My Lords, I stand to support Amendment 185, also in my name. I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, for her very able introduction and the right reverend Prelate the

Bishop of Gloucester for her support. Like the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, I raised this issue at Second Reading. I...

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Baroness Hodgson of Abinger (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc416-7
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House of Lords

My Lords, I metaphorically rise to speak to Amendment 185. I am very grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, for outlining the issues so clearly. It is a real honour to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Hodgson, and I am delighted to have added my name to Amendment 185....

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Bishop of Gloucester (Bishops (affiliation))
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc417-8
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House of Lords

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 186 in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Paddick. As before, this addresses the same cause as our previous amendment that applied to the guidance. As debated before, domestic abuse experienced by men, and abuse in same-sex relationships, can be...

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Baroness Featherstone (Liberal Democrat)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc418-9
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House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Gale

173: After Clause 72, insert the following new Clause—

“Duty of the Secretary of State to take account of matters relating to gender

It is a duty of the Secretary of State in performing functions under this Act to take account of the evidence that domestic abuse affects women disproportionately...

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Baroness Gale (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 c412
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House of Lords

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have made extremely knowledgeable contributions. I thought that there would be experts on the Benches on all sides of the House, and I have certainly not been disappointed this afternoon. The noble Lord, Lord Young of Cookham, talked about the balance that...

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Baroness Burt of Solihull (Liberal Democrat)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
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810 c358
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House of Lords

My Lords, before I speak to the amendment in my name, as we enter the final day of Committee I want to thank everyone who has been involved in this marathon. By tabling more than 200 amendments, we have created a vast amount of work for the clerks, the Bill...

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Baroness Bertin (Conservative)
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Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc362-5
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House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, and the noble Baroness, Lady Bertin. They reminded us just how popular these amendments are, as almost every single one of them was backed by many organisations and individuals. Whereas popularity is not necessarily a good guide...

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Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (Green Party)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
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810 cc365-6
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House of Lords

My Lords, I should remind the Committee that I was a police officer for more than 30 years. Picking up the theme from the noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Moulsecoomb, of a change in culture, there has clearly been a change of culture in the police service towards domestic abuse,...

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Lord Paddick (Liberal Democrat)
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Date
10 February 2021
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810 cc366-7
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House of Lords

My Lords, I wish to speak briefly in support of Amendment 167, in the names of my noble friend Lady Bertin and others. Given that we are discussing multiagency strategies, I declare my interests as a non-executive member of the board of Ofsted and a non-executive director of DCMS.

My noble...

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Baroness Wyld (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc367-8
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House of Lords

My Lords, I am delighted to be able to support all these amendments but particularly Amendments 167 and 177B. I too pay tribute to all those who have written to me and have frankly explained not only their policy approach but, in the case of individuals, the personal tragedies that...

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Earl of Lytton (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc368-9
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House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

164: After Clause 72, insert the following new Clause—

“Monitoring of serial and serious harm domestic abuse and stalking perpetrators under multi-agency public protection arrangements

(1) The Criminal Justice Act 2003 is amended as follows.

(2) In section 325 (arrangements for assessing etc risk posed by certain offenders)—

(a)...

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc358-9
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House of Lords

My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Jones. I too pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross. Once again, she has identified an area which is absolutely right for an addition to the Bill. I would be very interested to know whether the Minister has...

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Baroness McIntosh of Pickering (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 c402
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House of Lords

My Lords, these two small but important amendments are perfect examples of what I have been banging on about throughout the Bill and what my noble friend Lady Brinton kindly alluded to: the need for a joined-up approach on the part of all services to work together to help victims,...

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Baroness Burt of Solihull (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc402-3
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House of Lords

Amendment 165, moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross, would require that where a local authority employee

“suspects in the course of carrying out a financial assessment for adult social care that a person is the victim of domestic abuse, the employee reports the suspected abuse to a relevant social worker...

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Lord Rosser (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc403-4
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House of Lords

My Lords, I know that the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross, will not get a big head when I again pay tribute to her for highlighting the plight of elderly victims of domestic abuse. She has such experience in this area. These very well-intentioned amendments seek to tackle the scourge of...

Member
Baroness Williams of Trafford (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2021
Reference
810 cc404-5
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House of Lords