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Home Education (Duty of Local Authorities) Bill (HL) 2017-19

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Moved by

Lord Lucas

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 5, at end insert—

“436AA Duty of local authorities to collect and share information where the proprietor of a school has received written notification from parents that a pupil is receiving elective home education.

(1) A local authority must make a return to the...

Member
Lord Lucas (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1771
House
House of Lords

My Lords, there has been considerable noise in the press and elsewhere about off-rolling: the idea that schools are pushing the parents of troublesome pupils into home education. Looking at the statistics for Northamptonshire, which I happen to have, there does appear to be some evidence of a move in...

Member
Lord Lucas (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 cc1771-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, does the noble Lord think that a better solution might be if schools did not exclude pupils in the first place?

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1772
House
House of Lords

I am sorry, but I did not hear the noble Lord.

Member
Lord Lucas (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1772
House
House of Lords

Does the noble Lord think that, rather than parents being obliged to home educate their children because of the danger of exclusion, a better solution would be to be much more restrictive about exclusions in the first place and not to allow them except in extremis? In that way, we...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1772
House
House of Lords

My Lords, that is quite possible, but schools and parents can deal only with the circumstances in which they find themselves. It is the parents’ duty, in particular, to make the best of what they can. I agree that we ought to emphasise much more looking after those children who...

Member
Lord Lucas (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 cc1772-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, and his amendment, primarily because this is the first chance we will get to dig out some detail here. Many of the questions I have about this are directed at the Government Front Bench, because the Government’s attitude is crucial. There...

Member
Lord Addington (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 cc1774-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I agree mostly with what the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, said about home education and I commend my noble friend Lord Solely on his Bill.

I would like to direct the attention of the House and the Minister to the issue of school exclusions, which is getting more and...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 cc1775-7
House
House of Lords

Perhaps I may put a question to my noble friend. Is he aware that 70% of youngsters excluded from schools in England and Wales have learning difficulties, which often lead to mental health problems? We are creating a social underclass totally disconnected from society.

Member
Lord Touhig (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1777
House
House of Lords

My Lords, on the noble Lord’s reference to philosophical preferences, my recollection, as a Member of Parliament some years ago, was that in a number of cases one wanted to support home education, but there were deep concerns about the motivation of the parents in seeking such an arrangement. Does...

Member
Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1777
House
House of Lords

I understand what the noble Lord is saying, but it is quite difficult for the state to start making judgments about the philosophical preferences of parents when it comes to home education. The point I seek to make to the Committee is that while there are some forms of home...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1778
House
House of Lords

Does my noble friend agree that part of the problem is the weakening of local authorities and their diminishing control over schools in their area? They are unable to take an overview of the needs of the area. That break-up is one of the most significant disadvantages of the development...

Member
Lord Grocott (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1778
House
House of Lords

My noble friend and I could debate academies over a good deal of time, and indeed we have done over the years. I do not believe there is any inconsistency between strong and autonomously-led schools and social responsibility. That has always been at the heart of the reforms that I...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1778
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I apologise for not speaking at Second Reading—please forgive me. I have to declare an interest, and here I address my remarks to the noble Lord, Lord Adonis. I was a child who was excluded from school, which meant that I had an incredibly impoverished education. When I...

Member
Lord Bird (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 cc1778-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before I turn to the amendment, I want to say that of course no one wants to see pupils being excluded, but I have to tell noble Lords that all the meetings in the world with the Minister will not change things unless we are prepared to put...

Member
Lord Storey (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 cc1779-1780
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise to speak in your Lordships’ debate with some trepidation because education is not my subject and never has been.

First, I follow my noble friend Lord Bird in apologising for not having spoken at Second Reading. I followed that debate quite closely and I think the best...

Member
Viscount Falkland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 cc1780-1
House
House of Lords

The noble Lord is making a very interesting discourse but can he explain how it has any connection to the Bill of the noble Lord, Lord Soley?

Member
Lord Warner (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1781
House
House of Lords

Absolutely. The connection, which may upset people, is that I think the Bill is total nonsense in the way it is being followed through. I do not think that the teachers of this nation, most of whom are very dedicated people, are meeting the requirements—which they could do if they...

Member
Viscount Falkland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1781
House
House of Lords

My Lords, those of us who were present at Second Reading were clear about the importance of keeping things simple in

the Bill. When there has not been an education Bill for a long time, there is always a tendency for all sorts of things to be raised. Those of...

Member
Baroness Morgan of Huyton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1781
House
House of Lords

I take the noble Baroness’s hint. I shall wind up my discourse by saying this. If we are to see in children of the background that I have described a change in their behaviour, their mood and, one hopes, their enjoyment of life, the best way to bring it about...

Member
Viscount Falkland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2018
Reference
790 c1782
House
House of Lords