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Department of Health
Type
Deposited papers
Date
6 May 2009
Reference
DEP2009-1563
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is a difficult speech to make, because I have unutterable respect for both previous speakers and a great belief that such a committee might well be a positive way forward. I was going to speak about any section or interest that was added to this list because...

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Baroness Howarth of Breckland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c139-40
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in moving this amendment, I realise that I run the risk of crossfire from other noble Lords for seeking to add to the list in subsection (2). I am looking in particular at the noble Baroness, Lady Howarth, but luckily she is not paying attention. I am prepared...

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c144-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his reply. He gave only a brief nod to the problem which I had been trying to identify in my remarks, which is, as I see it, that the model which the Government have chosen to adopt is that the content...

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Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c118
House
House of Lords

Amendment 2 2: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause— "Core principles The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision as to the core principles of the NHS Constitution."

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c115
House
House of Lords

Clause 7: Supplementary provision about the duty Amendment 18 18: Clause 7, page 5, line 33, at end insert— "(7A) Subsection (7) does not apply if— (a) the provider does not have control of the premises, or (b) the services are provided by means such that the persons receiving them...

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Lord Darzi of Denham (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c167
House
House of Lords

Amendments 11 to 14 11: Clause 3, page 3, line 16, at end insert "and bodies or other persons representing staff" 12: Clause 3, page 3, line 16, at end insert— "( ) carers, ( ) local authorities," 13: Clause 3, page 3, line 22, at end insert— ""carers" means...

Member
Lord Darzi of Denham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c164-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we know that the impact that the proposals for direct payments will have on staff is significant. In particular, the introduction of this more individual-centred delivery of healthcare will have a significant impact on workforce planning, especially where a patient embarks on a course of treatment that conflicts...

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Lord Campbell-Savours (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c205-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I very much appreciate the Minister's comments and his explanation. I respect his position, but we are left with what many would see as an anomalous situation with regard to the functioning of the NHS. On the one hand, there will be a duty to have regard to...

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c136
House
House of Lords

Amendment 4 4: Clause 2, page 2, line 4, at end insert— "( ) the Advisory Committee on the Treatment of Haemophilia;"

Member
Lord Morris of Manchester (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c136
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I cannot help but be sympathetic to the amendment of the noble Earl, Lord Howe, and recognise the points that have been made by my noble friend Lord Walton. However, this seems to me to come down to the matter raised by the noble Earl who is ultimately...

Member
Baroness Murphy (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c145-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I would like to provide a contrast by strongly supporting the amendment. It neatly provides the device that I was looking for the last time I spoke. If we do not have specialised commissioning groups flagged up centrally, that would suggest that they are not absolutely core to...

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Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c146
House
House of Lords

My Lords, lists always worry me terribly, because when you have completed one you always think of something that should have been on it. I want to pose a question to the Minister before he replies: is there any group working directly or indirectly for the National Health Service that...

Member
Baroness Tonge (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c146
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I think it was Aristotle—if not it ought to have been—who said that it is the essence of probability that some improbable things will happen. How could I possibly have suspected that my first duty now would be for me to thank the noble Earl, Lord Howe, for...

Member
Lord Morris of Manchester (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c143-4
House
House of Lords

Amendment 5 5: Clause 2, page 2, line 6, at end insert— "( ) specialised commissioning groups;"

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c144
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord, and I shall try to clarify the matter. Principle 7 in the constitution refers to accountability within the NHS, which is part of the constitution. At the time, we did not think of a separate public-facing document, and the...

Member
Lord Darzi of Denham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c114
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, I wonder why the statement of accountability is not included as part of the constitution. It seems to be extremely important, and indeed the constitution reflects the importance of accountability. If you were stating the manner in which you should be accountable...

Member
Lord Mackay of Clashfern (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c114
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Amendments 1 and 16 tabled by the noble Earl, Lord Howe, would place a duty on the Secretary of State to publish a statement of accountability, to review it every three years and to ensure that it continues to be available to patients, staff and members of the...

Member
Lord Darzi of Denham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c113-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the British Medical Association has said that it has been a vocal supporter of the concept of an NHS constitution. It is the BMA’s belief that a clearly articulated set of values that reflect a shared consensus concerning the nature and purpose of the NHS will strengthen the...

Member
Lord Walton of Detchant (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c113
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it falls to me to open today’s proceedings. With this amendment I shall couple Amendment 16 in this group. I take us to an issue which we did not debate in Grand Committee; the role and standing of the Statement of NHS Accountability for England in relation to...

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 April 2009
Reference
710 c111-2
House
House of Lords