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The noble Lord, Lord Kingsland, put his finger on the problem which was created by Mr Blunkett’s abolition of appeals in immigration cases and the creation of a single tier. I am sure that when he did so—although I have not had the opportunity of checking Hansard—he said that it...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c803-4
House
House of Lords

I support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Shutt. The Government’s utterances on identity checks at the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic have been unclear. In truth, that reflects either muddled thinking by the Government or a reluctance to come clean about what they...

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Viscount Bridgeman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c755-6
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House of Lords

Before the noble Baroness withdraws the amendment, may I make one remark? This is clearly a complex matter. I am a little concerned that, at this stage of the Bill, we may be making quite definite interpretations of what this clause means. This might be seen by others as setting...

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Earl of Listowel (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c823
House
House of Lords

I, too, was surprised to find Clause 50 tucked away in the Bill so soon after the Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Bill received Royal Assent in 2007. A key feature of the Act was that asylum and immigration cases were excluded from the operation of Section 19, so that High...

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Lord Lloyd of Berwick (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c795-7
House
House of Lords

First, I declare an interest: I am chancellor of a university. It is interesting to see how many Members of the Committee are involved in education, which, in many ways, I find reassuring.

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Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c776
House
House of Lords

I am very glad that the noble Baroness, Lady Hanham, raised this matter of the withdrawal of funds from the children’s panel. It seems to me incongruous to talk about safeguarding children and, in particular, the disappeared children referred to by the noble Lords, Lord Ramsbotham and Lord Hylton, when...

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Lord Avebury (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c830-1
House
House of Lords

The purpose of the amendment is to allow those born to fathers not married to their mothers to register as British citizens. In the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002, the law was changed so that children born to British fathers who were not married to their non-British and not-settled...

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Baroness Falkner of Margravine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c742
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for his response. I was slightly worried about the word "incremental". As a Yorkshireman I thought, good heavens, is Lancashire next? I worry about that word "incremental" in all forms of legislation. It is also slightly worrying that the noble Lord, Lord West, in going to...

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Lord Shutt of Greetland (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c760
House
House of Lords

I shall just probe a little further on this. Is the Minister saying that if, on the other side of a border, in another country, embassy staff are suspicious that there may be an ulterior motive in some of the trafficking that is going on involving children, they would alert...

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Baroness Howe of Idlicote (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c821
House
House of Lords

We on these Benches are grateful to the noble Baroness for tabling the amendment. Although we will not know exactly how many young children and babies, in particular, are trafficked, the Minister may have in his briefing the number of prosecutions that there have been and the penalties given to...

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Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c825
House
House of Lords

I shall certainly ensure that we put those details on the website. I hope that we can put some sensible timescales to it as well. I shall see if that can be done.

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Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c787
House
House of Lords

The new clause gives us an opportunity to open up the question of the retention of biometric substances, fingerprinting falling within that, and I share the concerns of the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, about the fact that we have not yet responded to the European directive. I think that an...

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Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c784
House
House of Lords

It must be clear to the Government by now that there is widespread concern about Clause 46 and the details of it. However, I should like to mention my experience of the last time that I flew to Belfast from London in November last year. I was asked to produce...

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Lord Hylton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c762
House
House of Lords

I assume that the noble Baroness is talking about a "dawn raid" in this country; of course, this Bill covers anything that happens in this country. Our responsibility for looking after children is covered by that, because it is taking place in this country. As for escorting children overseas, when...

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Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c821
House
House of Lords

I speak to Amendment 116; I hope that I am not speaking out of place. It might be interpreted as also including those children and young people about whom there is some uncertainty as to whether they are children or adults. This has been a bone of contention for a...

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Earl of Listowel (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c825
House
House of Lords

I also support the amendment. It may well be that it can be explained in a way that will satisfy all of us who are concerned about the whole issue. The way in which the noble Baroness, Lady Hanham, explained the issue and the history leading up to it reminded...

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Baroness Howe of Idlicote (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c825
House
House of Lords

In the previous group of amendments, perhaps I should have mentioned that when children are trafficked for the purposes of benefit fraud, often they may be disguised as children travelling in the care of a relative. That is another instance where great vigilance is needed. Amendment 117B in this group...

Member
Lord Hylton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c825
House
House of Lords

I hope that the Minister will be able to accept these amendments today because they reflect a most serious concern that has already been referred to—the trafficking of young children. The first two amendments in this group can be seen as providing belt and braces support for Amendment 117B. That...

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Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c823-5
House
House of Lords

Whilst I am not aware of the specific issue that the noble Lord, Lord Hylton, raised about the cultivation of cannabis, that is a criminal offence. If the police were to encounter children in that situation, they would pursue the culprit who was doing that and safeguard the children they...

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Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c828
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for that—that is heartening. Perhaps he would like to also publish at some point the sentences that those people received. Can he give me an assurance that the trafficked children—even if they were working in the circumstances described by the noble Lord, Lord Hylton—are never prosecuted,...

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Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 March 2009
Reference
708 c827
House
House of Lords