As noble Lords know, the Bill was introduced in the other place. If the Bill had been introduced in this House it would not have contained the money clause. The insertion of a money clause relates to procedures in the other place. When a Bill is introduced there, the House...

As noble Lords know, the Bill was introduced in the other place. If the Bill had been introduced in this House it would not have contained the money clause. The insertion of a money clause relates to procedures in the other place. When a Bill is introduced there, the House...

I am grateful to the Minister for his comments. It is important that we continue to draw attention to the special situation of elderly and disabled people. I am sure that this will remind the Assembly and the transport committee, when it is duly formed, of the needs of the elderly and...

I am grateful to the Minister for his comments. It is important that we continue to draw attention to the special situation of elderly and disabled people. I am sure that this will remind the Assembly and the transport committee, when it is duly formed, of the needs of the elderly and...

I hope that such a sub-committee would not mean that there would be reduced representation on the main Public Transport Users’ Committee for Wales on behalf of the disabled, the frail and the elderly. That is where representatives are needed, where they can have the first and most direct input into...

I hope that such a sub-committee would not mean that there would be reduced representation on the main Public Transport Users’ Committee for Wales on behalf of the disabled, the frail and the elderly. That is where representatives are needed, where they can have the first and most direct input into...

I thought that Amendment No. 6 was to insert words into Clause 2, not Clause 1.

I thought that Amendment No. 6 was to insert words into Clause 2, not Clause 1.

As we have heard, Amendment No. 2 would extend the general transport duty in Clause 1 to include a statutory duty on the National Assembly for Wales to promote the Welsh economy. We do not think it is necessary to promote the Welsh economy in the Bill. We are doing that in many...

As we have heard, Amendment No. 2 would extend the general transport duty in Clause 1 to include a statutory duty on the National Assembly for Wales to promote the Welsh economy. We do not think it is necessary to promote the Welsh economy in the Bill. We are doing that in many...

We have already been told that this traffic commissioner deals with two comparatively small areas. If we get another traffic commissioner, that is another salary and money that perhaps could be used elsewhere. I could say that he is the traffic commissioner for Wales who also happens to look after the...

We have already been told that this traffic commissioner deals with two comparatively small areas. If we get another traffic commissioner, that is another salary and money that perhaps could be used elsewhere. I could say that he is the traffic commissioner for Wales who also happens to look after the...

I thank the Minister for his remarks. He has not satisfied me at all. If he thinks that the current arrangements for bus services are satisfactory, he is very far away from the people who use the buses. The Office of Fair Trading and the Competition Commission have given him information...

I thank the Minister for his remarks. He has not satisfied me at all. If he thinks that the current arrangements for bus services are satisfactory, he is very far away from the people who use the buses. The Office of Fair Trading and the Competition Commission have given him information...

Clearly, we will return to this at the next stage; but I have just been given some information that I am sure will be of great interest to the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw. He talked about a decline in bus use; in fact, bus use in Wales has actually increased since the introduction...

Clearly, we will return to this at the next stage; but I have just been given some information that I am sure will be of great interest to the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw. He talked about a decline in bus use; in fact, bus use in Wales has actually increased since the introduction...

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

I am grateful to the Minister for the assurance that he has given that the amendment is unnecessary because its main purpose can be achieved through other parts of the Bill. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendment No. 14 not moved.]

I am grateful to the Minister for the assurance that he has given that the amendment is unnecessary because its main purpose can be achieved through other parts of the Bill. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendment No. 14 not moved.]

I believe that a strong case can be made out in support of Amendment No. 19; the appointment of a traffic commissioner for Wales. However, the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales stated:"““The reason that there is no provision to create a separate commissioner for Wales is that the current commissioners cover...

I believe that a strong case can be made out in support of Amendment No. 19; the appointment of a traffic commissioner for Wales. However, the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales stated:"““The reason that there is no provision to create a separate commissioner for Wales is that the current commissioners cover...

moved Amendment No. 12:"Page 4, line 24, at end insert—" ““(   )   the effect of any incentive scheme on passengers making connections between transport services,”” The noble Lord said: I move Amendment No. 12 and speak to Amendment No. 14, which is grouped. This is where I ask the Assembly to take notice of the ability to make...

moved Amendment No. 12:"Page 4, line 24, at end insert—" ““(   )   the effect of any incentive scheme on passengers making connections between transport services,”” The noble Lord said: I move Amendment No. 12 and speak to Amendment No. 14, which is grouped. This is where I ask the Assembly to take notice of the ability to make...

I agree absolutely with the noble Lord that, without connectivity, it is impossible to have an integrated transport system. We shall read with interest everything that he has said. He may be interested to know that Arriva will introduce a standard pattern timetable in December, which will help to improve connections...

I agree absolutely with the noble Lord that, without connectivity, it is impossible to have an integrated transport system. We shall read with interest everything that he has said. He may be interested to know that Arriva will introduce a standard pattern timetable in December, which will help to improve connections...

My interest in that company is extremely slight. I think I have been to one meeting with it in a year. I am certainly no part of that franchise, the Virgin franchise or the Arriva franchise in Wales. I have been talking to one of the Arriva Trains people this morning, but that is...

My interest in that company is extremely slight. I think I have been to one meeting with it in a year. I am certainly no part of that franchise, the Virgin franchise or the Arriva franchise in Wales. I have been talking to one of the Arriva Trains people this morning, but that is...

Both noble Lords are hung up on the fact that railways are not mentioned in the Bill. It seems to have escaped their attention that buses are not mentioned in the Bill. That is because we are talking about a Bill about transport; it is not about a specific part...

Both noble Lords are hung up on the fact that railways are not mentioned in the Bill. It seems to have escaped their attention that buses are not mentioned in the Bill. That is because we are talking about a Bill about transport; it is not about a specific part...

Clause 11 empowers the Assembly to provide financial assistance for air traffic services and airport facilities serving Wales. The amendment moved by the noble Lord would remove the restriction imposed by Clause 11(2) and allow the Assembly to provide financial support for air services and facilities, even where the service or...

Clause 11 empowers the Assembly to provide financial assistance for air traffic services and airport facilities serving Wales. The amendment moved by the noble Lord would remove the restriction imposed by Clause 11(2) and allow the Assembly to provide financial support for air services and facilities, even where the service or...

Clause 8 allows the Assembly to set up a Public Transport Users’ Committee for Wales by order made in plenary session. Amendment No. 16 would place a requirement in the Bill for a sub-committee with specific responsibility for transport provision for the elderly, the disabled and those described so movingly by the noble...

Clause 8 allows the Assembly to set up a Public Transport Users’ Committee for Wales by order made in plenary session. Amendment No. 16 would place a requirement in the Bill for a sub-committee with specific responsibility for transport provision for the elderly, the disabled and those described so movingly by the noble...

Perhaps I may point out that a sub-committee is usually composed of selected members of the main committee.

Perhaps I may point out that a sub-committee is usually composed of selected members of the main committee.

Having said that, I hope that the noble Lord will feel able to withdraw his amendment.

Having said that, I hope that the noble Lord will feel able to withdraw his amendment.

moved Amendment No. 15:"Page 4, line 31, at end insert—" ““(   )   In respect of bus services operating within or mainly within Wales, operators may enter into agreements to operate through joint services and issue joint tickets and shall not be subject to the Competition Act 1998 (c. 41), but shall be subject to a...

moved Amendment No. 15:"Page 4, line 31, at end insert—" ““(   )   In respect of bus services operating within or mainly within Wales, operators may enter into agreements to operate through joint services and issue joint tickets and shall not be subject to the Competition Act 1998 (c. 41), but shall be subject to a...