As ““host”” has been mentioned, can the Minister say whether it is appropriate now or at a later stage to consider why we need hosts, how they will work, how much money they will have and whether they will be voluntary organisations that do not get involved in the work...

As ““host”” has been mentioned, can the Minister say whether it is appropriate now or at a later stage to consider why we need hosts, how they will work, how much money they will have and whether they will be voluntary organisations that do not get involved in the work...

I add my support to this group of amendments, particularly Amendment No. 238KG, on, "““supporting members of local involvement networks to obtain””," their experiences. I wish to add to my noble friend Lord Howe’s search for clarity on the purpose of LINks. Perhaps I may use an example from my...

I add my support to this group of amendments, particularly Amendment No. 238KG, on, "““supporting members of local involvement networks to obtain””," their experiences. I wish to add to my noble friend Lord Howe’s search for clarity on the purpose of LINks. Perhaps I may use an example from my...

This has been a thorough debate on some complex issues. I much admire the noble Earl’s struggle with language. Sometimes we seem to exist in a virtual universe when we consider the language of parliamentary draftsmen. That is not unique to this Bill, but it is, perhaps, perplexing here. The...

This has been a thorough debate on some complex issues. I much admire the noble Earl’s struggle with language. Sometimes we seem to exist in a virtual universe when we consider the language of parliamentary draftsmen. That is not unique to this Bill, but it is, perhaps, perplexing here. The...

Before the Minister finishes, I want to ask her one more question. If LINks are so very diverse, will they not be very confusing to the general public? They are confusing to us so what on Earth will the general public think of them?

Before the Minister finishes, I want to ask her one more question. If LINks are so very diverse, will they not be very confusing to the general public? They are confusing to us so what on Earth will the general public think of them?

I do not think that they will be confusing. We are at the stage at which they look confusing because we do not have these animals operating in front of us. Once the host is contracted and the functions of the LINks networks are described, people will have a clear...

I do not think that they will be confusing. We are at the stage at which they look confusing because we do not have these animals operating in front of us. Once the host is contracted and the functions of the LINks networks are described, people will have a clear...

I am sure that Members of the Committee are most grateful to the Minister for having covered the amendments in such detail. This is a mixed bag of amendments so I suppose that it is not surprising that we should take comfort from some parts of the Minister’s answer and...

I am sure that Members of the Committee are most grateful to the Minister for having covered the amendments in such detail. This is a mixed bag of amendments so I suppose that it is not surprising that we should take comfort from some parts of the Minister’s answer and...

moved Amendment No. 238LZA: 238LZA: Clause 222, page 154, line 43, at end insert— ““( ) enabling people to monitor and review the provision of care services and local care services for persons moving their place of ordinary residence into the area.”” The noble Lord said: Never mind the opacity...

moved Amendment No. 238LZA: 238LZA: Clause 222, page 154, line 43, at end insert— ““( ) enabling people to monitor and review the provision of care services and local care services for persons moving their place of ordinary residence into the area.”” The noble Lord said: Never mind the opacity...

I support the noble Lord, Lord Low, very strongly in all that he has said on these amendments. In doing so I declare a non-financial interest as president of the National Society for Epilepsy, a charity that regularly finds itself entangled in exactly the kind of sterile and time-consuming arguments...

I support the noble Lord, Lord Low, very strongly in all that he has said on these amendments. In doing so I declare a non-financial interest as president of the National Society for Epilepsy, a charity that regularly finds itself entangled in exactly the kind of sterile and time-consuming arguments...

I also support all the words of the noble Lord, Lord Low. I declare an interest as a former trustee of Jewish Care, where precisely these issues came up time and again. I very much hope that the noble Baroness will be able to do as much as she possibly...

I also support all the words of the noble Lord, Lord Low. I declare an interest as a former trustee of Jewish Care, where precisely these issues came up time and again. I very much hope that the noble Baroness will be able to do as much as she possibly...

I support the noble Lord, Lord Low, and congratulate him on his ingenuity in bringing this extraordinarily long-standing difficulty to the House through this amendment. I doubt whether the noble Lord thinks that the Minister can solve this, but if she could move it forward in any way, she would...

I support the noble Lord, Lord Low, and congratulate him on his ingenuity in bringing this extraordinarily long-standing difficulty to the House through this amendment. I doubt whether the noble Lord thinks that the Minister can solve this, but if she could move it forward in any way, she would...

I have three simple questions. First, what advantage does the host have in carrying out this duty? Secondly, will it be able to levy a management charge? Thirdly, if so, how will that be controlled by the local authority so that as much money as possible goes to the front...

I have three simple questions. First, what advantage does the host have in carrying out this duty? Secondly, will it be able to levy a management charge? Thirdly, if so, how will that be controlled by the local authority so that as much money as possible goes to the front...

None of the questions that noble Lords ask is simple. I am sorry that the noble Baroness remembered the other question, although the first one was actually worse. Perhaps I may briefly go over the process. We think that giving local authorities the duty to establish LINks for procurement of...

None of the questions that noble Lords ask is simple. I am sorry that the noble Baroness remembered the other question, although the first one was actually worse. Perhaps I may briefly go over the process. We think that giving local authorities the duty to establish LINks for procurement of...

It will not obviate the need for a host. There will always have to be a host. Until I receive more intelligence from the officials, I shall have to busk on this one. In the mean time, I will move swiftly on to answer another question.

It will not obviate the need for a host. There will always have to be a host. Until I receive more intelligence from the officials, I shall have to busk on this one. In the mean time, I will move swiftly on to answer another question.

I have added my name to two of these amendments. If I may say so, I thought that the questions asked by the noble Earl, Lord Howe, were absolutely spot on. I want to probe a tiny bit further on the point about ring-fencing, which is important. If we had...

I have added my name to two of these amendments. If I may say so, I thought that the questions asked by the noble Earl, Lord Howe, were absolutely spot on. I want to probe a tiny bit further on the point about ring-fencing, which is important. If we had...

In the light of the answers that have been given, and the fact that this is a financial issue, perhaps I may ask the Minister a question. She said the organisation could be a charity. If these LINks become charities, will have the same status as other charities in their...

In the light of the answers that have been given, and the fact that this is a financial issue, perhaps I may ask the Minister a question. She said the organisation could be a charity. If these LINks become charities, will have the same status as other charities in their...

If they are a charity, they will have the freedom to do that. In terms of the impact it would have on the pattern of local provision, in the voluntary sector we are nearly always in the situation of competing against our best friends. That is part of the negotiation...

If they are a charity, they will have the freedom to do that. In terms of the impact it would have on the pattern of local provision, in the voluntary sector we are nearly always in the situation of competing against our best friends. That is part of the negotiation...

While the noble Baroness was answering, I thought of one more question. If local authorities hold the money, will they not give priority to local authority projects rather than health needs? There will be so many demands.

While the noble Baroness was answering, I thought of one more question. If local authorities hold the money, will they not give priority to local authority projects rather than health needs? There will be so many demands.

The point is that the local authorities will not hold the money; they will make the contract with the host, which will hold the money. It is that which guarantees the independence of LINks. The first amendment we discussed about why a host is needed clearly established the notion of...

The point is that the local authorities will not hold the money; they will make the contract with the host, which will hold the money. It is that which guarantees the independence of LINks. The first amendment we discussed about why a host is needed clearly established the notion of...

moved Amendment No. 238KC: 238KC: Clause 222, page 154, line 30, after ““on”” insert ““effectively”” The noble Earl said: I shall speak also to Amendments Nos. 238KDA, 238KF, 238KH, 238L and 238LE. One thing that makes people like me suspicious about what is to emerge from the Bill is the...

moved Amendment No. 238KC: 238KC: Clause 222, page 154, line 30, after ““on”” insert ““effectively”” The noble Earl said: I shall speak also to Amendments Nos. 238KDA, 238KF, 238KH, 238L and 238LE. One thing that makes people like me suspicious about what is to emerge from the Bill is the...

In lending my support to these amendments, I will speak briefly to Amendment No. 238KL. Before that, I should explain to my noble friend why I have added my name to a number of the amendments being debated today. My noble friend will remember that I was critical of the...

In lending my support to these amendments, I will speak briefly to Amendment No. 238KL. Before that, I should explain to my noble friend why I have added my name to a number of the amendments being debated today. My noble friend will remember that I was critical of the...