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Public acts
Date
24 May 2007
Reference
CHAP 6 2007
Deposited by
Northern Ireland Office
Type
Deposited papers
Date
23 April 2007
Reference
HDEP 2007/352
House
House of Lords

I probably will not be able to answer all the points put by the noble Lord, Lord Trimble, but I have two sets of notes and I shall move between both of them. I had a set prepared for yesterday in case certain things arose, and that set has more...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c240-2GC
House
House of Lords

I am most grateful for the contributions, and to the noble Lord for raising the issue. I was present when he raised the issue on Monday, but at Question Time we cannot have debates like those in Grand Committee. I have no doubt that we shall return to the matter...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c239-40GC
House
House of Lords

I had not intended to speak on this issue until I heard the noble Lord, Lord Trimble. He referred to the subject at Second Reading, and I agreed with what he said then—and I agree even more, having heard what he said today. My party, as I understand it, is...

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Lord Lester of Herne Hill (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c238GC
House
House of Lords

I am most grateful for the Minister’s very clear explanation. Of course, it is absolutely right that the Assembly will choose the model it wants. I recognise that this is the last resort and a temporary measure. Perhaps I may stretch the Committee’s patience for a second. This will be...

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Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c234GC
House
House of Lords

The restriction to which the amendment relates is not one that we should like to see in perpetuity. However, it seems sensible for the situation to remain as it is for the time being. Having said that we do not wish to see it in perpetuity, perhaps the Minister can...

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Lord Glentoran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c233GC
House
House of Lords

Before I respond, perhaps I may point something out. I know that the noble Lord, Lord Lester, will have read the report of our proceedings on Monday, but I should mention that my noble and learned friend the Attorney-General gave a clear commitment that if Members of the Committee require...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c231-2GC
House
House of Lords

I have a very similar amendment, although it looks rather neater and shorter than the amendment moved by my noble friend Lady Harris. Both amendments would impose sunset clauses on the extra powers for the police and Army. Our amendment seeks to make the provisions in Clauses 20 to 39...

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Lord Glentoran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c231GC
House
House of Lords

On the noble Lord’s final point, there is some time between now and the final stages of the Bill—after Easter—and I shall do my best to ensure that that happens. We cannot have a mature consideration on Report unless we get as much of the guidance available to noble Lords...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c228-9GC
House
House of Lords

Before the noble Lord sits down, I draw to his attention to the fact that, while it is certainly true that a greater number of Members of the other place are not as keenly interested in the detailed legislation as the noble Lord and his colleagues, it is not true...

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Lord Trimble (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c230GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 46: 46: After Clause 39, insert the following new Clause— ““Duration of sections 20 to 39 (1) Sections 20 to 39 shall (subject to subsection (2)) cease to have effect at the end of the period of one year beginning with the day on which it is...

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Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c230-1GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 38: 38: Clause 22, page 17, line 1, after ““A”” insert ““member of Her Majesty’s forces or a”” The noble Lord said: This amendment is concerned with the breadth of the powers of entry on to premises. The Bill provides the police or a member of the...

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Lord Lester of Herne Hill (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c225-6GC
House
House of Lords

If the noble Lord will allow me, this is probably repeating something that I said earlier. In some ways, it meets the point that the noble Lord is making. Currently, members of the Armed Forces give some indication of why they are arresting an individual. They say why they are...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c224-5GC
House
House of Lords

I say in the politest way possible that the noble Baroness, Lady Richmond, ought to think of the fees she pays for her briefers. She has read from an old brief, and the all the dates she has given are wrong and irrelevant to the Bill. The Government changed the...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c211GC
House
House of Lords

I support the points made by the noble Lord, Lord Lester. Surely, it should be possible to draft an amendment to provide that where an investigation has begun properly after the date—there should be no question about the appropriateness of the investigation—it should be possible for the commission to acquire...

Member
Lord Trimble (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c214GC
House
House of Lords

Unlike the Minister, I have tried to use the Freedom of Information Act and he may not realise that you have to live a long time in order to get what you seek. The procedures are so bureaucratic that it may be a year or two before you get the...

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Lord Lester of Herne Hill (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c215-6GC
House
House of Lords

I am very grateful to the Minister for that full reply. It is correct to say that a fetter is being imposed on the commission by the way in which this clause is drafted. It allows the commission to enter only a place of detention specified in the exhaustive list...

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Lord Lester of Herne Hill (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c203-4GC
House
House of Lords

My amendment, Amendment No. 34, is in this group and attempts to achieve something quite similar. These amendments handle the restrictions that the commission has on what information it can request. Currently the Bill prevents it asking for anything from before 1 August 2007. I think that the commission has...

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Lord Glentoran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c210GC
House
House of Lords

On a point not directly to do with this Bill, we have all at different times complained about the groupings. I remind myself and everybody else that we have perfect access to the groupings in advance, and we have a right to change them. If the groupings are not to...

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Lord Glentoran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 March 2007
Reference
690 c201GC
House
House of Lords