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Date
19 July 2006
Reference
CHAP 25 2006

My Lords, it is a great honour for me to make my maiden speech today. I should first like to put on record my thanks to your Lordships and the staff of the House for all the kindness and help that you and they have extended to me. Having had...

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Lord Burnett (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Maiden speeches
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1051-4
House
House of Lords

Finance (No 2) Bill. Lords second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Committee negatived. Standing Order 47 having been dispensed with Lords third reading (formal). Passed. (Debated with report of Economic Affairs Committee on Finance Bill 2006 (HL 204 2005-06))

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Lord McKenzie of Luton
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Baroness Noakes
Department
Treasury; Economic Affairs Committee
Type
Debates on bills; Debates on select committee reports
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1041-94
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill be now read a second time. In addition to covering the substance and main clauses in the Bill, I will address some of the issues raised by the report of the Economic Affairs Committee on the Finance Bill 2006. I also...

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Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1041-2
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House of Lords

No, my Lords, I am not saying that. AIM has been successful. We are saying that, for real estate investment trusts, the degree of transparency and regulation in governance is not sufficient for what we are seeking to achieve at this stage. A number of noble Lords mentioned the withdrawal...

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Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1091-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, is the Minister saying that small investors should not invest via AIM at all? Is that the Government’s view?

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Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1091
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House of Lords

My Lords, I thank all who have spoken in today’s debate. I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Burnett, on a truly impressive maiden speech. He spoke with authority, and I am sure he will enliven many of our future debates on not only finance but other matters. I note that...

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Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1088-91
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Burnett, on his very good and entertaining maiden speech. I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Wakeham, on his committee’s excellent report and his robust comments, along with those of the noble Lords, Lord Barnett and Lord Newby, on the role of the...

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Lord Howard of Rising (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1084-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this has been the most extraordinarily wide-ranging debate. We have had a very erudite discussion of technical tax issues; we have also discussed the state of the economies of India and China, the demographics of retirement, nuclear power, environmental regulation, the Underground and the need for a dynamic...

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Lord Newby (Liberal Democrat)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1081-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it was not intended as an insult. I have the highest regard for the Chancellor; I have known him more than 25 years, but I think he is an interfering, meddling Chancellor who has taken to 11 Downing Street a whole range of activities that should not be...

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Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1081
House
House of Lords

My Lords, that is rather a cheap insult, if I may say so.

Member
Lord Haskel (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1081
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Lord. I apologise. I had a guest and I had to leave the Chamber. I missed his speech but I look forward to reading it tomorrow. I have apologised to my noble friend Lady Noakes for the same thing. I am...

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Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1078-81
House
House of Lords

My Lords, unfortunately the noble Lord was not in his place when I answered his point about the 500 pages. I pointed out that under all Governments and all Oppositions, Finance Bills are never properly debated; only the sexy party-political bits. That is why they are constantly getting bigger.

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Lord Barnett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1078
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am sorry if I did not hear the noble Baroness correctly, but that is what I thought I heard. The important thing is that the criticism seems to be increasing as the years of success increase, which I find rather strange. Every year of success should be...

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Lord Sheldon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1062-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I must have expressed myself badly because I have been misheard twice by the Benches opposite. I did not say that this is a failing economy; I was clear about that. I said that the economy is being managed sub optimally.

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Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1061
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I shall speak about the Finance Bill less from the point of view of tax or economic affairs—I was not a member of the sub-committee, but I join the noble Lord, Lord Northbrook, in congratulating it on its report—and more from that of business, which is where the...

Member
Lord Haskel (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1067-70
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we are once again here on a hot July day to discuss the Finance Bill and the report on it produced by the committee chaired by my noble friend Lord Wakeham. As usual, the committee has done a fine job and deserves our congratulations on an excellent and...

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Lord Northbrook (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1063-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will not go down the road travelled by the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes, in commenting on the Budget, except to say that we continue to have low interest rates, low inflation and near record numbers in employment, on top of the longest uninterrupted period of growth on...

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Lord Rosser (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1074-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, thank the Minister for giving us this opportunity to debate the Finance Bill today. I look forward to hearing his comments on those who think that the existence of the House of Lords Economic Affairs Committee somehow trespasses on the territory of another place. The Bill...

Member
Viscount Trenchard (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1070-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thought that sentiments of the kind expressed by the noble Lord had died out long ago with new Labour. It is refreshing to hear the politics of envy alive in this House of all places. I thought his attempt to link VAT fraud with tax avoidance was...

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Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 July 2006
Reference
684 c1077-8
House
House of Lords