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I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Turner, and I support her in this endeavour—rare though that might seem to some of your Lordships. To be strictly accurate, my right honourable friend the Leader of the Opposition has done rather more than support this amendment; what he did was...

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Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c100GC
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House of Lords

Amendment 161A 161A: After Clause 28, insert the following new Clause— "Income-related benefits In section 123(1)(e) of the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 (c. 4) (income-related benefits), for "council tax benefit" substitute "council tax rebate"."

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Baroness Turner of Camden (Labour)
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Date
2 July 2009
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712 c99GC
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House of Lords

I am very grateful.

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Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
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Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c98GC
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House of Lords

I am not sure whether the Minister was choosing his words particularly carefully when he said, "I am sure we will return". Does that mean led by him, or does it mean led by Members of the Committee, who by that stage will of course be Members of the House?

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Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c124-5GC
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House of Lords

Without having any great expertise on this particular issue, the basic issue is whether the services should be provider or user-led. I think that we are seeking that they should be user-led.

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Lord Northbourne (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c122GC
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House of Lords

I thank the noble Baroness for the amendment. I am pleased that it is her favourite as it is the one on which I can respond most fully from the Government’s point of view in the way that she has anticipated. I know that there has been engagement on these...

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Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
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712 c122-4GC
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House of Lords

We, in this context, are the Government. As in all of these things, I am very happy to have a shared conversation.

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c125GC
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House of Lords

Amendment 167 167: Clause 34, page 40, line 34, leave out subsection (3)

Member
Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c126GC
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House of Lords

Having had several interesting and instructive debates about the merits of direct control, the benefits that will accrue to the individuals affected and the extent to which funding streams should be included, Amendments 167 and 169 deal with the implementation of right to control schemes. In a previous debate, we...

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Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
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2 July 2009
Reference
712 c126GC
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House of Lords

Is the phrase "in all the circumstances" going to be spelt out in regulations?

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Baroness Thomas of Winchester (Liberal Democrat)
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Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c127GC
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House of Lords

I am not going to hold the Committee up by supporting the amendment again at too great a length, but of course I absolutely support it. As a co-founder of the National Centre for Independent Living—for 10 years that organisation has developed to assist support schemes to develop, grow and...

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Baroness Campbell of Surbiton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c115GC
House
House of Lords

If the Committee will indulge me, I will repeat an incident that happened to me over Easter when I was with a friend, who is a patron of a wonderful charity in my city. It helps disabled children and disabled adults with learning difficulties. Since it was the holidays, children...

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Baroness Hollis of Heigham (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c113-4GC
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House of Lords

The noble Baroness, Lady Campbell, started with what I can only describe as a devastating critique of joined-up government in the area of services for disabled people, and of course she is absolutely right. The Bill holds out absolutely no help to us at all. In England, there is to...

Member
Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c106-8GC
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House of Lords

I picked up three things from what the Minister said. First, he spoke of putting people first, and in this case disabled people. Nobody could take exception to that. Secondly, the Government want to avoid confusion by the duplication of existing powers. We are complaining that existing powers are not...

Member
Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c110GC
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House of Lords

The Minister pointed out that sanctions already exist in the field of actively seeking work under the Jobseekers Act 1995. One can readily understand that the regime will be slightly different when applied to the Clause 2 group, the progression-to-work group. It would be extremely helpful if I and perhaps...

Member
Lord Skelmersdale (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c98GC
House
House of Lords

Clause 26: Attendance in connection with jobseeker's allowance: sanctions Amendment 158 158: Clause 26, page 35, line 11, at end insert— "but only after a clear warning letter and explanation of the initial instance of failure to comply has been issued to the claimant"

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Baroness Thomas of Winchester (Liberal Democrat)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c95GC
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House of Lords

In moving the amendment, I am well aware that the Minister has said in terms that the first sanction for jobseeker’s allowance will be a warning letter. However, I have not withdrawn the amendment because it should be in the Bill. In the chapter of his report entitled "The Role...

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Baroness Thomas of Winchester (Liberal Democrat)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
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712 c95GC
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House of Lords

Speaking for myself, I strongly support this amendment. It removes the exclusion of community care services and funding from the ambit of right to control. It makes no sense for a scheme that is all about ending fragmentation and introducing a seamless approach to support planning to explicitly exclude such...

Member
Baroness Wilkins (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c106GC
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, for the amendments, whose effect would be to make the disqualification of liable persons from holding or obtaining a travel authorisation, as set out in Clause 42, subject to a two-year pilot. Clause 43 currently makes provision for a two-year pilot only in...

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Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c148-9GC
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House of Lords

I should be delighted to talk quietly later and, if the noble Lord would wish it, to write to him. The missive in my hand tells me that the lady whom we are talking about would be able to claim an exemption only if she could not provide enough information...

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Baroness Crawley (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
2 July 2009
Reference
712 c154GC
House
House of Lords