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Date
12 November 2009
Reference
CHAP 26 2009

The amendment relates to the composition of crime and disorder overview and scrutiny committees, which have been established by local authorities in England since 30 April 2009 under the Police and Justice Act 2006. The suggestion is that it should be compulsory to have a member of the local police...

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1449-50
House
House of Lords

I thank my noble friend for his response. I am sure that there are problems with the amendment, but there will be problems also if it does not happen. It is interesting that the Minister is all in favour of flexibility in some circumstances, and yet in others—and we have...

Member
Baroness Henig (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1450
House
House of Lords

This amendment seeks to ensure that there is always a police authority representative on crime and disorder committees to square the circle regarding police accountability. Crime and disorder committees are effectively council overview and scrutiny committees when they sit to consider crime and disorder issues. They were created through the...

Member
Baroness Henig (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1448-9
House
House of Lords

My name is attached to the amendment that the noble Baroness, Lady Henig, has outlined admirably. I will say only that I support it and that I hope that the Minister will answer the questions.

Member
Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1449
House
House of Lords

I merely observe that the proposals put forward by the noble Baroness might be very difficult to operate in London.

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1449
House
House of Lords

I sense a germ of hope, finally, in what the Minister has said. For years I have been bashing on about this, never getting anywhere and always being thrown back by whoever happened to be dealing with me at the Dispatch Box. There is hope, and I am most grateful...

Member
Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1363-4
House
House of Lords

This amendment would bring the Association of Chief Police Officers within the provision of the Freedom of Information Act. My reason for tabling it is that the Government are, in any case, looking at whether the FOI Act is wide enough in the organisations it covers. The Prime Minister opened...

Member
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1364-5
House
House of Lords

Before this discussion finishes, what other examination will be done on this? It might only be my own ignorance, but I do not quite understand why the police authority chief executives have been left out on what appears to be a limb, rather than being included like most other public...

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1361
House
House of Lords

Amendment 4 4: Clause 1, page 1, line 11, at end insert— "( ) The following amendments to the Local Government Act 1999 (c. 27) shall have effect with regard to police authorities— (a) section 1(1)(d) is omitted; (b) section 1(4) is omitted; (c) section 24 is omitted."

Member
Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1362
House
House of Lords

The noble Baroness mentioned that the financial functions of police authorities and duties arose from the local government best-value provisions, which regulate police authorities’ procurement, recruitment and financial accounting and reporting. Although the Government accept that police authorities are in many ways distinct from other local authorities, surely the financial...

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1363
House
House of Lords

I support the amendment. As regards collaborative arrangements, it is extremely important that a mechanism is set up to see that joint arrangements are working. I suspect that there would have to be—as the noble Baroness, Lady Henig, suggested—a joint committee made up of members from each of the authorities...

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1413
House
House of Lords

Amendment 36A in this grouping is intended to assist collaboration and make its operation easier and more effective. At the risk of boring the Committee to death, to explain how this helps I need to address some of the complexities of local government legislation and some of the history of...

Member
Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1412-3
House
House of Lords

Amendment 29 29: Clause 5, page 7, line 28, at end insert— "23EA Collaboration agreements: report (1) A person who makes a collaboration agreement must submit a report on the working of the agreement annually to the Secretary of State who shall lay it before both Houses of Parliament. (2)...

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1415
House
House of Lords

Clearly, the noble Baronesses tabled these amendments because they think the Secretary of State’s powers and involvement in the budgetary and financial affairs, strategic direction and performance management of police authorities need to be fettered to allow them greater autonomy in determining their budgets. The proposed new clause suggests that...

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1395-6
House
House of Lords

I fear that I am unable to go further at the moment. Could we return to this?

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1377
House
House of Lords

As was the case with Amendment 25, proposed by the noble Baronesses, Lady Harris of Richmond and Lady Miller of Chilthorne Domer, I reassure noble Lords that the Bill’s provisions are not intended as a form of micromanagement that is being imposed because the Home Office does not trust the...

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1433-4
House
House of Lords

Clause 10: Police equipment Amendment 42 42: Clause 10, page 15, line 10, at end insert— "( ) After subsection (1B) insert— "(1C) Before making any regulations under this section, the Secretary of State shall seek advice from Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Constabulary.""

Member
Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1438
House
House of Lords

The dinner hour came rather unexpectedly; I was caught out by not being able to thank the Minister for his full explanation of the whole of this clause. As we draw our scrutiny of the clause to a close, I am reminded by the remark of the noble Baroness, Lady...

Member
Viscount Bridgeman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1433
House
House of Lords

Amendment 36 36: Clause 5, page 7, line 42, leave out ", or prohibit them from making,"

Member
Viscount Bridgeman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 June 2009
Reference
711 c1433
House
House of Lords