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My Lords, I understand that that is correct. Does that answer the noble Lord’s questions about a non-ministerial government body?

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c645
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I would like to make it clear that we support these amendments and the changes to the law that they would effect, but I will keep my remarks brief because we have little time in which to finish a large number of groups. This is, however, not the...

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Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c708-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, for making some very important points, and I join him in thanking the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster for clarifying the position and in particular for heeding and accepting the advice of the noble Lord,...

Member
Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c646
House
House of Lords

139: Clause 204, page 127, line 8, at end insert— ““(4A) Where this Act disapplies a prohibition on harassment in relation to a specified protected characteristic, the disapplication does not prevent conduct relating to that characteristic from amounting to a detriment for the purposes of discrimination within section 13 because...

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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c722-3
House
House of Lords

135: Clause 199, page 124, line 3, at end insert— ““( ) A statutory instrument containing an Order in Council under section 82 (offshore work) is subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament.””

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Baroness Thornton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c716
House
House of Lords

144: In the Title, line 11, after ““opportunity;”” insert ““to amend the law relating to rights and responsibilities in family relationships;”” Amendment 144 agreed. Title, as amended, agreed. Bill reported with amendments.

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Lord Lester of Herne Hill (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c724
House
House of Lords

I do think that we have got somewhere. That is the important thing. I was a little misled at first by the description of a non-departmental public body as a government department, but I have now reached an adequate pausing point for further consideration. I am very grateful to the...

Member
Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c646
House
House of Lords

Yes, my Lords. Non-ministerial departments are included in Part 1 of Schedule 19, because non-ministerial departments are considered to be government departments. That is what I am informed and that is how they are covered. In response to the questions from the noble Lord, Lord Low, our plan is to...

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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c644
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I cannot really see what advantage one would get by replacing ““reasonably thinks”” with ““can demonstrate””. How does one set about demonstrating that there is a disadvantage in a work situation? I should have thought that it was reasonable to take on board this wording where an individual...

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Baroness Turner of Camden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c692
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before I address Amendments 115C and 118A, tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Lester, Amendments 117 and 118 in the names of the noble Baronesses, Lady Warsi and Lady Morris, and Amendment 119 from the noble Baroness, Lady Knight of Collingtree, it might help the House if I...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c657-60
House
House of Lords

141: Clause 208, page 128, line 24, at end insert— ““( ) Sections (Abolition of husband’s duty to maintain his wife) to (Civil partners: housekeeping allowance) come into force on such a day as the Lord Chancellor may by order appoint.”” Amendment 141 agreed. Clause 208, as amended, agreed. Clause...

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Lord Lester of Herne Hill (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c723
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this group of amendments relates to two different clauses—158 and 196, so I shall address the relevant amendments separately. Amendment 116 would make it a requirement for employers to rely on the statistical evidence to support the use of positive action measures to tackle disadvantage or underrepresentation within...

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Baroness Thornton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c692-3
House
House of Lords

I think the Minister said that a non-ministerial body is a government department. Is it not better to say that it is a public authority?

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Lord Lester of Herne Hill (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c645
House
House of Lords

My Lords, are the non-departmental public bodies in or out? ““A government department”” is not a good phrase to cover the non-departmental public bodies.

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Lord Mackay of Clashfern (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c645
House
House of Lords

Yes, my Lords, just as the department of the Treasury Solicitor, for example, is a non-ministerial department. It is a similar sort of body. Again, I will clarify for the noble Lord, Lord Low, that we will bring forward a consultative list in the summer at the same time as...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c645
House
House of Lords

I do not know whether the noble Lord can afford to go on like this, but he should remember the well known maxim, ““No good deed goes unpunished””.

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Lord Lester of Herne Hill (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c646
House
House of Lords

My Lords, clarity has come from the fact that non-departmental public bodies will be listed. The definitions in Schedule 19 are only for those that are there already. A great number will be added in the course of our beautiful summer that is coming.

Member
Lord Mackay of Clashfern (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c646
House
House of Lords

While the noble Baroness is considering the important point made by the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, can she give us an idea of the timescale within which she proposes to give noble Lords and others the clarification that we seek?

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Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c644
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before the Minister responds to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, perhaps she can say whether she means that the regulation-making power will be used to update the schedule—I think that she used the words ““update the schedule””—so that the additional bodies with whom she wishes to have discussions...

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Lord Low of Dalston (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c644
House
House of Lords

Perhaps the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster can clarify the position. I was following her in reading Part 1 of Schedule 19, which is entitled ““Public Authorities: General””. I saw under the heading ““Ministers of the Crown and government departments””: ““A Minister of the Crown””, and "““A government department...

Member
Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 February 2010
Reference
717 c644
House
House of Lords