66: Schedule 17, page 388, line 13, at end insert— ““17 In section 320 of the Housing and Regeneration Act 2008 (orders and regulations)— (a) in subsection (3)(a) (orders subject to approval in draft by each House of Parliament), after ““114”” insert ““, 122””, and (b) in subsection (7)(a) (orders...

66: Schedule 17, page 388, line 13, at end insert— ““17 In section 320 of the Housing and Regeneration Act 2008 (orders and regulations)— (a) in subsection (3)(a) (orders subject to approval in draft by each House of Parliament), after ““114”” insert ““, 122””, and (b) in subsection (7)(a) (orders...

We are grateful to the Government for responding to the earlier amendment. I acknowledge that the noble Lord, Lord Best, will not move his amendment, but are classes 4 and 5 specified in that amendment classes that the Government would support and take forward under the process that they have...

We are grateful to the Government for responding to the earlier amendment. I acknowledge that the noble Lord, Lord Best, will not move his amendment, but are classes 4 and 5 specified in that amendment classes that the Government would support and take forward under the process that they have...

I am very grateful to the Minister for what he has just said. There has been a problem here, but it sounds as though it is well on the way to resolution. I am very happy not to move Amendment 64.

I am very grateful to the Minister for what he has just said. There has been a problem here, but it sounds as though it is well on the way to resolution. I am very happy not to move Amendment 64.

My Lords, in Committee, the noble Lords, Lord Best, Lord Patel, Lord McKenzie and Lord Beecham, tabled an amendment designed to liberalise Section 122 of the Housing and Regeneration Act 2008, which restricts the payments that housing associations may make to their members, and a similar amendment has been tabled...

My Lords, in Committee, the noble Lords, Lord Best, Lord Patel, Lord McKenzie and Lord Beecham, tabled an amendment designed to liberalise Section 122 of the Housing and Regeneration Act 2008, which restricts the payments that housing associations may make to their members, and a similar amendment has been tabled...

I understand the point that the Minister is making—that this Bill may not be the right forum for progressing the issue—but there will nevertheless be discussions about how the issue might be progressed in other ways.

I understand the point that the Minister is making—that this Bill may not be the right forum for progressing the issue—but there will nevertheless be discussions about how the issue might be progressed in other ways.

My Lords, we are happy to continue work to resolve the issue, but not with this Bill.

My Lords, we are happy to continue work to resolve the issue, but not with this Bill.

I understand that situation. With that confirmation, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 62 withdrawn. Schedule 17 : Regulation of social housing Amendment 63 Schedule 17 : Regulation of social housing Amendment 63 Moved by

I understand that situation. With that confirmation, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 62 withdrawn. Schedule 17 : Regulation of social housing Amendment 63 Schedule 17 : Regulation of social housing Amendment 63 Moved by

Before the Minister sits down, I shall press him on this point. In order to get time for this to be resolved, would he be able to facilitate a discussion between representatives of these organisations, the almshouses and their residents with officials and Ministers in the department?

Before the Minister sits down, I shall press him on this point. In order to get time for this to be resolved, would he be able to facilitate a discussion between representatives of these organisations, the almshouses and their residents with officials and Ministers in the department?

My Lords, we will do whatever we can to assist a resolution of this problem. We will continue to monitor it, but my particular point is that there is not much more we can do with this Bill.

My Lords, we will do whatever we can to assist a resolution of this problem. We will continue to monitor it, but my particular point is that there is not much more we can do with this Bill.

My Lords, when I moved Amendment 62, I quoted from the Minister’s letter which said that she was sympathetic to this case, so I am pleased that we seem to have ended on a note of sympathy and understanding of the problem. I think we need to try to find...

My Lords, when I moved Amendment 62, I quoted from the Minister’s letter which said that she was sympathetic to this case, so I am pleased that we seem to have ended on a note of sympathy and understanding of the problem. I think we need to try to find...

My Lords, I said that we cannot enter further discussions. We cannot use this Bill to solve this problem. I gave no such undertaking.

My Lords, I said that we cannot enter further discussions. We cannot use this Bill to solve this problem. I gave no such undertaking.

With regard to the evidence, if I can give the noble Lord some more evidence I will, but I am not certain that I can. I believe there are some difficulties with his second request.

With regard to the evidence, if I can give the noble Lord some more evidence I will, but I am not certain that I can. I believe there are some difficulties with his second request.

Will it be possible for the evidence that the Minister referred to from the regulator, the Charity Commission and other bodies to be provided in the Library so that we can see exactly what evidence they have supplied to the Government that indicates that legally this is very complicated? Would...

Will it be possible for the evidence that the Minister referred to from the regulator, the Charity Commission and other bodies to be provided in the Library so that we can see exactly what evidence they have supplied to the Government that indicates that legally this is very complicated? Would...

My Lords, I am confident that my department will continue to monitor the situation, but we cannot do anything further with this Bill.

My Lords, I am confident that my department will continue to monitor the situation, but we cannot do anything further with this Bill.

62: After Clause 166, insert the following new Clause— ““Transfer of trusteeship of almshouses In section 170 of the Housing and Regeneration Act 2008 (overview) at the end insert— ““(2) For the purposes of this Chapter, ““disposal of property”” shall include the transfer of trusteeship of an almshouse by a...

62: After Clause 166, insert the following new Clause— ““Transfer of trusteeship of almshouses In section 170 of the Housing and Regeneration Act 2008 (overview) at the end insert— ““(2) For the purposes of this Chapter, ““disposal of property”” shall include the transfer of trusteeship of an almshouse by a...

Amendment 62 relates to the transfer of trusteeship of almshouses. I am grateful to my noble friend the Minister for writing to me in the Recess to say that she was sympathetic to the case for this amendment and would be happy to consider the matter and discuss it further...

Amendment 62 relates to the transfer of trusteeship of almshouses. I am grateful to my noble friend the Minister for writing to me in the Recess to say that she was sympathetic to the case for this amendment and would be happy to consider the matter and discuss it further...

61: Schedule 16, page 381, line 15, at end insert— ““Housing (Scotland) Act 2010 (asp 17) 59A The Housing (Scotland) Act 2010 is amended as follows. 59B In section 18(2) (co-operation with other regulators: definition of ““relevant regulators””) in paragraph (a) for ““the Office for Tenants and Social Landlords”” substitute...

61: Schedule 16, page 381, line 15, at end insert— ““Housing (Scotland) Act 2010 (asp 17) 59A The Housing (Scotland) Act 2010 is amended as follows. 59B In section 18(2) (co-operation with other regulators: definition of ““relevant regulators””) in paragraph (a) for ““the Office for Tenants and Social Landlords”” substitute...

My Lords, as regards the amendment moved by my noble friend Lord Shipley, I recognise the strength of local feeling in the case that he highlighted. We have looked at his proposal extremely carefully and have discussed it with the social housing regulator, the Charity Commission, the National Almshouse Association...

My Lords, as regards the amendment moved by my noble friend Lord Shipley, I recognise the strength of local feeling in the case that he highlighted. We have looked at his proposal extremely carefully and have discussed it with the social housing regulator, the Charity Commission, the National Almshouse Association...

I know that the Minister was not tempted by the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, but can he give the House any assurance that the issue the noble Lord raised will be looked at seriously by the Government? I accept that this involves charity law, which is complicated stuff, but it...

I know that the Minister was not tempted by the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, but can he give the House any assurance that the issue the noble Lord raised will be looked at seriously by the Government? I accept that this involves charity law, which is complicated stuff, but it...

My Lords, I offer my support and that of the Opposition to the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, as I have done on a number of occasions on Report. He has identified a problem that needs to be addressed. It involves real people with real concerns. If the matter requires further...

My Lords, I offer my support and that of the Opposition to the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, as I have done on a number of occasions on Report. He has identified a problem that needs to be addressed. It involves real people with real concerns. If the matter requires further...