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Lords motion to take note of the report of the European Union Committee on The EU referendum and EU reform (HL 122). Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Lord Boswell of Aynho
Answering member
Lord Faulks
Department
Ministry of Justice; European Union Committee; Science and Technology Committee (HL)
Type
Debates on select committee reports
Notes
Debated with Lords motion to take note of the report of the European Union Committee on The process of withdrawing from the European Union (HL 138) and Lords motion to take note of the report of the Science and Technology Committee on EU membership and UK science (HL 127).
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1221-1289
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I also declare my membership of the Science and Technology Committee and express my thanks to the chairman and the clerk who led us so well on all these issues. The topics chosen in my time on the committee were the nearest thing one is likely to get...

Member
Duke of Montrose (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1261-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I add my thanks to noble Lords for the sober analysis of the processes of change provided in these reports. Tragically, however, the European Union is not capable of the reforms that could justify Britain remaining. The dreams of the Prime Minister in his Bloomberg speech have been...

Member
Lord Howarth of Newport (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1262-3
House
House of Lords

Does the noble Lord not agree, however, that there is a directly elected European Parliament and that it has the right of co-legislation in EU decision-making?

Member
Baroness Smith of Newnham (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 c1263
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the last speaker was correct in telling us that there are some very unpleasant elements inside Europe in some of the parties. What the noble Lord did not mention is that all our friends—our allies, members of the Commonwealth, the democracies of the world—are desperate that we should...

Member
Lord Taverne (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1264-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, every one of the three reports we are debating today is relevant to the event that will take place a week tomorrow and is given a great deal of added topicality by that event. Each one, as is invariably the case with such reports of our EU Select...

Member
Lord Hannay of Chiswick (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1265-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I contribute to this debate as a member of the Science and Technology Committee, which reported on EU membership and UK science. I declare an interest as a member of the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council. I take this opportunity to thank our chairman, the noble Earl,...

Member
Baroness Neville-Jones (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1268-1270
House
House of Lords

My Lords, like others, I thank most warmly the members of the committees whose reports we are discussing. I particularly thank the leadership of those committees. The noble Lord, Lord Boswell, made a fine, outstanding, balanced and telling introduction to this debate. I have been privileged to serve on a...

Member
Lord Judd (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1270-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare an interest as high steward of Cambridge University. In that context, I was particularly delighted by the remarks of my noble friend Lord Taverne. I endorse the harsh reality that the pre-eminence of our science, and the pre-eminence of Cambridge University in particular in science, would...

Member
Lord Watson of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1271-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as I listened to the wonderful speeches of the noble Lords, Lord Jay, Lord Cormack and Lord Bilimoria—picking just three out of what could have been a much larger number; I could certainly have included the speech from the noble Lord, Lord Watson, which we have just heard—I...

Member
Lord Low of Dalston (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1274-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as a fully signed-up member of the Boswell fan club, I was very impressed not only by the report but by its introduction today from the noble Lord, Lord Boswell. It has been very useful to have the three reports melded into one debate. I was a little...

Member
Baroness Ludford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1276-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, thank your Lordships’ EU Committee for its excellent reports, and the noble Lord, Lord Boswell. The reports have focused on key issues arising from the Government’s negotiations and have addressed that vital question of plan B. Since their publication, events have overtaken us. With just seven...

Member
Lord Collins of Highbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1279-1282
House
House of Lords

Will the noble Lord explain the difference between populism and democracy?

Member
Lord Pearson of Rannoch (UK Independence Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 c1282
House
House of Lords

Democracy is David Cameron and populism is Boris—what is his name?—Johnson.

3.57 pm

Member
Lord Collins of Highbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 c1282
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this has been a fascinating debate. It has covered an enormous amount of ground and the House has displayed great expertise and, indeed, passion. I do not exclude from that observation, despite the fact that they were very much in the minority, the noble Lords, Lord Howarth and...

Member
Lord Faulks (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1282-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the House will be grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, for his generous response to our three committee reports collectively, and for the tone in which he explained the Government’s position. I was rather moved by his final remarks, although that will not shake our formal position...

Member
Lord Boswell of Aynho (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1288-9
House
House of Lords

It has indeed gained some powers but I would still contend that its influence is marginal. I certainly do not see that the European Parliament has any worthwhile accountability to the peoples of Europe.

Yanis Varoufakis has described how, when equipped with a democratic mandate from the Greek people, he sought...

Member
Lord Howarth of Newport (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1263-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, these reports and this debate give us an opportunity to look away from some of the more myopic aspects of the referendum discussions so far. So much of the conversation to date has focused on what the UK may get back, how much richer we might become or...

Member
Lord Hastings of Scarisbrick (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 cc1244-5
House
House of Lords

Before the noble Lord leaves the trade aspects, is he going to answer the points I put to him? For instance, they have two and a half million more jobs selling things to us than we do to them. Taking as I did the specific example of our motor trade,...

Member
Lord Pearson of Rannoch (UK Independence Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 c1286
House
House of Lords

The noble Lord is very confident about the future. I do not share his confidence. Of course trade will continue in one guise or another, but how can we be certain that the trade arrangements will be exactly as he would want them, given all the uncertainty that exists?

Member
Lord Faulks (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 June 2016
Reference
773 c1286
House
House of Lords