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Lords statement on the Government's strategy in both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Lead member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon
Department
Lord President of the Council
Type
Ministerial statements
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c221-36
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we on these Benches, too, pay tribute to those serving in our Armed Forces in Afghanistan; I am sure that the whole country is united in recognising their sacrifice. We welcome the ongoing development of the Government’s strategy on Afghanistan and Pakistan. On Afghanistan, we welcome the additional...

Member
Baroness Falkner of Margravine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c228-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, does the noble Baroness accept, following the comments of the noble Lords, Lord Roberts and Lord Hurd, that there is still confusion between the civil and the military? Somehow we still have to get over to the public that development assistance is also at the heart of this...

Member
Earl of Sandwich (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c235-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, does the Minister agree that Pakistan should not be used as a means to our war on terror but that it should be made to realise that fighting the Taliban and al-Qaeda is in its own interest? If Pakistan is seen to be doing that as an instrument...

Member
Lord Parekh (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c236
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the fact that the Secretary of State for International Development is also announcing his strategy for Afghanistan today will assist people who are perhaps more interested in the development of civilian rather than military aspects of the situation. That will ensure that they, too, are informed of the...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c236
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the strategy outlined today is not about imposing a British-made strategy. It is about Afghanisation, it is about civilianisation and it is about localisation. When I talked about my abhorrence for the family Sharia law, I was talking about it in human rights terms. This is not about...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c236
House
House of Lords

My Lords, page 7 of the Statement asserts: ""We have agreed … that terrorism and violent extremism present the most significant threat to both Britain and Pakistan"." It goes on to say that, ""we agreed on an enhanced strategic dialogue to bring together our senior diplomatic military and intelligence teams...

Member
Lord Ryder of Wensum (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c235
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will certainly consider that point. It is clear that wherever there is a lack of co-ordination, practice on the ground suffers. This strategy, which is all about coherence and co-ordination will assist, but I will certainly take back that specific point made by my noble friend.

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c235
House
House of Lords

My Lords, on matters of security, it would be imprudent for any member of the Government to discuss shortcomings that might or might not have happened. If I can share anything with the noble Lord confidentially I will certainly do so, but I am absolutely confident that this strategy, as...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c235
House
House of Lords

My Lords, would the Minister be very kind and address a point that the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, put to her in his earlier question, relating to the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan? Is it not really quite clear that there cannot be a stable and peaceful settlement in that...

Member
Lord Hannay of Chiswick (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c234
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the Statement and pay tribute to the maturity and flexibility of the military in the region. Yesterday in Dubai at an important security conference when the issue was being discussed, the Pakistani security authorities were bridling at the criticism from the West about the perceived lack...

Member
Lord Clark of Windermere (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c235
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I must apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, for not having answered his earlier question. I completely agree that, until the border is recognised, the violence and unrest are going to continue, because people living on both sides of the border will feel great tensions and will...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c234-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, on the final point, yes, rules of engagement are extremely important, but the fact that we now have a more coherent policy and are working more closely in a coherent way with other countries means that the rules of engagement are much clearer and, therefore, much more easily...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c234
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is an extremely long and complex saga. Does my noble friend agree that it is important to remember that in our approach to a solution? I often recall that my own uncle was killed on the north-west frontier in 1933. In grappling with that long and complex...

Member
Lord Judd (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c233
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will take what the noble Baroness has said back to my colleagues in the Home Office.

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c233
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am relieved to hear the Statement today. I said at the time that the section on Pakistan in the counterterrorism Statement on Monday 20b April when the House resumed was at best optimistic and at worst very complacent. The Statement today has somewhat made up for that....

Member
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c233
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I agree with everything that my noble friend has said. It is important that more people in our country understand the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan and what is at stake. It is the responsibility of Government but it is also our responsibility as parliamentarians to have a...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c233
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as someone who had a little to do with the decision by NATO to take on the ISAF in Afghanistan, I welcome the Statement, first, because it allows us an opportunity here to underline our support and sympathy for and congratulations to the troops who serve this country...

Member
Lord Robertson of Port Ellen (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c232-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, that is an excellent question. I have no in-depth knowledge of these units but I will certainly provide the information to the noble Lord in writing. What I can say is that "permanent" must mean that, while our troops are in theatre in Afghanistan, those specific units that...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c232
House
House of Lords

My Lords, can the Minister kindly clarify something that I am intrigued by. The Statement mentions something that I did not know existed. It says that we will be deploying permanent additional units for the purpose of properly protecting our forces from the growing threat of mines and roadside bombs....

Member
Lord Ramsbotham (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
29 April 2009
Reference
710 c232
House
House of Lords