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Seventeenth backbench debate (part one). Motion that this House notes the medium-term financial plan for the House of Commons as set out in Appendix A to the first report from the Finance and Services Committee, HC 754; endorses the intention of the Finance and Services Committee to recommend to the...

Lead member
Viscount Thurso
Department
Leader of the House of Commons
Type
Backbench debates
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 cc1386-1433
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,

That this House notes the medium-term financial plan for the House of Commons as set out in Appendix A to the First Report from the Finance and Services Committee, HC 754; endorses the intention of the Finance and Services Committee to recommend to the House of Commons...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 cc1386-7
House
House of Commons

The Finance and Services Committee has looked in detail and scrutinised all these areas. One of the major factors that will affect the estimate is the movement of the House pension fund from our own resources across to the civil service, which will change the way it is accounted. The...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1387
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for narrowing his question down. I will come to the restoration and renewal project in a moment. The key point is that, except for the points I will make shortly about the contract to make a full, professional and robust estimate of the...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1387
House
House of Commons

I can confirm both those points. Indeed, this was going to be my first substantive point. I suggest that I come right on to it and make my points; if the hon. Gentleman is not satisfied with them, he can intervene on me again.

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1388
House
House of Commons

I intend to cover resources to Select Committees as one of my five main issues. The 17% figure applies to the total, but there are variances within it. I believed it was important to approach this from the beginning not by saying, “There is the budget; let’s just slice it...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1388
House
House of Commons

Indeed. I believe my hon. Friend refers to the income generation strand. I intend to refer to that, too, so I invite him to intervene again after I have dealt with it. I suspect that the Chair of the Administration Committee intends to catch your eye, Mr Speaker, and may...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1388
House
House of Commons

Indeed. Another of my five points deals with restoration and renewal. Perhaps it would be a good idea if I just got on with it, Mr Speaker!

I was about to clarify the five points on which I wanted to focus: first, pay and contracts; secondly, income generation; thirdly, restoration and...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 cc1388-9
House
House of Commons

My belief is that that issue has, indeed, been addressed—and I think I have just had a little divine inspiration to confirm that. If, by any mischance, I have misinformed the hon. Gentleman, I will most certainly write to him, but otherwise he may take it that that has indeed...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 cc1389-1390
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for raising that issue with me. I do not have a specific answer to it, but I take very seriously what he said and will look at it, do what I can and come back to him.

The final point that we learned from...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 cc1390-1
House
House of Commons

The sums are fully provided for, as the hon. Gentleman would expect. I cannot tell him off the top of my head exactly what they are, including all the elements; if I may, I will write to him. It is obviously several million pounds, but I do not know exactly...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 cc1391-2
House
House of Commons

I completely respect the point that the hon. Gentleman is making, but there are huge amounts of time when we are in recess and not sitting here. Our dining rooms and banqueting rooms are very good facilities that match the best facilities offered by the livery halls and other venues....

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1392
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman and I will disagree about this. Last year an amendment was tabled on the subject, and it was duly defeated. I completely understand his point, and it is critical that the people who have access to this place are properly vetted, but if venues such as Buckingham...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1392
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend serves on the Finance and Services Committee, and I am grateful to him for his comments.

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1392
House
House of Commons

If I may, I will write to the hon. Gentleman about that, unless the Chair of the Administration Committee happens to know more about the exact criteria involved and can give him an answer now. I believe that the reforms involved removing sponsored events, and that it would still be...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1393
House
House of Commons

I can confirm that there is no charge for events undertaken by Members, and there is a 25% discount on events for outsiders that are sponsored by a Member. There is no discount on events that are run purely by outsiders. That is my understanding, but I will happily confirm...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1393
House
House of Commons

I will give way to the hon. Member for Cardiff West (Kevin Brennan) and then I want to move on.

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1393
House
House of Commons

I really do not want to go further in making comments when I do not have fully accurate data in front of me. In my role as president of the Tourism Society of the United Kingdom, I am sponsoring an event next March, and it is on the same conditions...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1393
House
House of Commons

I am very well aware of that. The principle is that we should recover the appropriate costs. It would be quite wrong for this House to subsidise anyone from outside in the provision of any facility. It is a matter of retrieving the appropriate cost for an event. That goes...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1394
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that point and he and I have corresponded on the matter. It was precisely to ensure the robustness of the decision that the Commission decided to look for external professional assistance with no optimism bias, internal bias or anything else. I have...

Member
Viscount Thurso (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2013
Reference
570 c1395
House
House of Commons