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My Lords, I apologise to the House for not being present for what I am sure were excellent speeches at the start of the debate; I was on the HS2 committee, under the chairmanship of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, and in order for it to be quorate,...

Member
Lord Liddle (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 cc1334-5
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Lord for giving way. The issue that I was raising was why this was not considered in the report. It first came to light on 18 February and the report went to bed and to the printers on 3 March. There was plenty of time to...

Member
Lord Hamilton of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 c1335
House
House of Lords

I take the point—but at least the committee has drawn this crucial point to our attention. If we had not had this Select Committee report, what kind of debates would we have had, either here or in the other place, on the Government’s new policy? The fact is that we...

Member
Lord Liddle (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 cc1335-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank your Lordships’ House for its forbearance in allowing me to speak into the gap. I echo many noble Lords in congratulating the noble Earl, Lord Kinnoull, on the excellence of his report and to offer the Green group’s support to the amendment tabled by the noble...

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Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 cc1336-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Liddle, I need to apologise for having been temporarily absent during this debate. I was in my place for all the opening speeches, but I was absent because I am being double-hatted today. In normal circumstances, my noble friend Lord Wallace of Saltaire...

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Baroness Smith of Newnham (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 cc1337-8
House
House of Lords

Does the noble Baroness agree that if you threaten to walk away, you strengthen your negotiating position?

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Lord Hamilton of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 c1338
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as has happened so often this evening when there has been an intervention, I will say: “Ah, if the noble Lord will only wait just a moment, I might get to that point.” What I wanted to say was that when Boris Johnson was writing in the Telegraph...

Member
Baroness Smith of Newnham (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 cc1338-1340
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise to respond to what has been a typically incisive and insightful debate. I say to the noble Baroness, Lady Smith, that there is no reason to be concerned that she was not present during the whole debate, because the Liberal Democrat Front Bench was covered all...

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Lord True (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 cc1340-1
House
House of Lords

I do not think that any of us who talked about coronavirus said that the negotiations should be abandoned. We said that the deadline should be abandoned.

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Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 c1341
House
House of Lords

All right—I shall accept the timetable. However, I maintain the point. In the middle of the Second World War, when Winston Churchill sent for Rab Butler—who my noble friend will remember very well—to look into the future of education in this country, he did not suddenly, when some news came...

Member
Lord True (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 c1341
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the Minister has just been advised by the noble Lord, Lord Cormack—and I support what he said—that nobody has suggested that the negotiations be abandoned. People have talked about the Government not being ideological about requesting an extension, so that we possibly go beyond December. There were murmurs...

Member
Baroness Ludford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 c1341
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is an unfortunate condition of democratic life that not everybody accepts the contention that is put forward by somebody on the other side. When I hear a plea being made for indefinite open-ended deferment—if I may go that far—that might or might not be a move towards...

Member
Lord True (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 cc1341-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I shall not respond to the debate—that is for the noble Earl, Lord Kinnoull, to do. I shall speak only about my amendment. There were some elements of my speech, such as on competition law, to which the Minister could not respond due to a lack of time,...

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Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 c1345
House
House of Lords

Yes indeed, and on the customs agent point that the noble Baroness raised.

Member
Lord True (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 c1345
House
House of Lords

I found the Minister’s response on my amendment much more positive than that of the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes. However, because of that, I must say something on the issue.

The noble Baroness, Lady Falkner, must have misread the amendment. We are asking not for a veto but for documents. I...

Member
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 cc1345-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, very briefly, I thank the staff of the committee. As I tried to explain in an obviously unsatisfactory answer to the noble Lord, Lord Hamilton, this was done in a tremendous rush, with lots of late-night oil being burned, because we got the Command Paper on 27 February...

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Earl of Kinnoull (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 cc1346-7
House
House of Lords

I very much welcome the committee’s intention to look at Northern Ireland. For some time, the Government said of the Irish border that it would all be all right on the night and we should not worry about it. They then conceded that there was something to worry about—and the...

Member
Lord Hain (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 c1347
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Lord for that. Here, I point to the very important intervention on that issue by the noble Lord, Lord Lamont of Lerwick. He pointed out that the situation is quite dynamic. If a free trade agreement results, it will greatly reduce, although not eliminate, the list...

Member
Earl of Kinnoull (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 c1347
House
House of Lords

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Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 c1284
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as a preliminary, I just want to send best wishes to colleagues from any Benches who are ill or staying at home because of coronavirus. Just before I left home, I was pleased that Radio 4 on “The World at One” responded to the plea from Esther Rantzen...

Member
Baroness Ludford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 March 2020
Reference
802 cc1288-1291
House
House of Lords