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Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 17 to 27 agreed to. Schedules 3 and 4 agreed to. New clauses debated and withdrawn. Part 2 of 2.

Lead member
Lord Gardiner of Kimble; Baroness Bloomfield of Hinton Waldrist
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Committee of the Whole House (HL); Debates on bills
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 cc851-907
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this amendment had me a little puzzled. I wondered whether the noble Lord had, like me, been a magistrate prior to 2012, when the law changed in England. That is at the root of the differences.

Amendment 88 would bring fines in England and Wales for offences committed under...

Member
Baroness Bloomfield of Hinton Waldrist (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 cc861-2
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to the Minister for her complete explanation. I beg leave to withdraw my amendment.

Member
Lord Grantchester (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 c862
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this amendment addresses a running concern in the Bill that Parliament will be precluded from knowing the

details of the trade negotiations as they affect fishing opportunities until it is too late to comment or influence the outcome. In his letter to Peers, the Minister referred to future...

Member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 cc862-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am very pleased to support the amendment. If there has been one mistake made since the referendum—apart from the result of the referendum which, of course, is indisputable and I entirely accept—it is that the Government have attempted to exclude Parliament from so much. That has been...

Member
Lord Teverson (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 cc863-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am also grateful to the noble Baroness for her amendment. The UK Government remain committed to keeping Parliament and the public informed of the progress of negotiations. On 27 February, the Government published The Future Relationship with the EU: The UK’s Approach to Negotiations. This makes clear...

Member
Lord Gardiner of Kimble (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 cc864-5
House
House of Lords

I think I am going to ask one of my dumb questions, which I know the Minister will tolerate. I am trying to understand the process here, because 1 July is quite soon for the negotiations to be complete. The Minister said that both Houses will be able to scrutinise....

Member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 c865
House
House of Lords

I think it would be best if I just repeat that the Prime Minister has already committed to provide further details as the negotiating process develops. I have said those words at the Dispatch Box twice now, and that both Houses will have access for scrutinising the actions. I well...

Member
Lord Gardiner of Kimble (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 c865
House
House of Lords

In that case, I am grateful to the noble Lord and I think it would be helpful if he could just check the point that the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, raised—I know he said he would—about what was said at his committee last week. I will look at Hansard carefully...

Member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 c865
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Amendments 92 and 97 are in the name of my noble friend Lord Grantchester and Amendment 96 is in my name.

Amendment 92 raises an important question about the role of the Secretary of State in overseeing the total stocks that can be fished by UK fishing boats in...

Member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 cc866-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I associate myself with the amendments in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Whitchurch, and the noble Lord, Lord Grantchester. I shall speak to my Amendment 92A. In the absence of my noble friend Lord Lansley, who is travelling from an engagement and has not...

Member
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 cc867-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have Amendment 103 in this group. I feel we are getting into the heart of the Bill here, under this section entitled “Fishing Opportunities”, and—like the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of Pickering—I would be grateful for some explanation from the Minister about how Clause 23 relates to...

Member
Baroness Worthington (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 cc868-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Grantchester, for his amendment, and to the noble Baroness who moved it. Although I recognise that the aim of the amendment is to make it compulsory for the Secretary of State to determine annual fishing opportunities, it would oblige the...

Member
Lord Gardiner of Kimble (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 c869
House
House of Lords

I am sure that there is the potential to do that, and I look forward to the meeting; I am very pleased that the Minister is going to bring this meeting together, and maybe we will find a way forward from there. I do not in any way write them...

Member
Lord Teverson (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 c869
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

83: After Clause 17, insert the following new Clause—

“Enforcement of licences

(1) A Minister of the Crown must, before the end of the period of 6 months beginning with the day on which this Act is passed, lay before Parliament a statement containing the policy of Her...

Member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 cc854-5
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Grantchester

88: Clause 19, page 13, line 35, at end insert “not exceeding £50,000”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment replicates the level of fine in Scotland and Northern Ireland for England and Wales, in order to probe the maximum amount under Clause 19(1)(a).

Member
Lord Grantchester (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 c860
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

90: Before Clause 23, insert the following new Clause—

“Negotiations on fishing opportunities previously governed by the Common Fisheries Policy

(1) A Minister of the Crown must, before the end of the period of three months beginning with the day on which this Act is passed, lay before...

Member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 c862
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

92: Clause 23, page 15, line 16, leave out “may” and insert “must”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment makes it compulsory for the Secretary of State to make a determination relating to annual fishing opportunities.

Member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 c866
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my proposed new clause seeks to clarify whether we have sufficient resources to patrol British waters and enforce fisheries licences, an issue we did begin to touch on in previous debates.

Apart from the odd skirmish, we have had a settled agreement on the distribution of fishing rights in...

Member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 cc855-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, for an excellent and important amendment. There is no point doing any of this stuff if we cannot enforce it, and enforcement on the high seas is one of the most difficult tasks that there is in terms of enforcement of...

Member
Lord Teverson (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
9 March 2020
Reference
802 c856
House
House of Lords