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My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Pendry, and to be able to agree wholeheartedly with so much of what he said, with the importance of the issue he raised and with his final sentiments.

I hope that the British Government and the EU will, over...

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Lord Lilley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 October 2019
Reference
800 cc106-7
House
House of Lords

Theoretically it can, but de facto it cannot. The European Parliament did once sack the whole of the European Commission because of corruption when Madame Cresson appointed her dentist, but then the Commissioners were virtually all reappointed. If that is the noble Baroness’s idea of democratic accountability, I have to...

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Lord Lilley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 October 2019
Reference
800 c107
House
House of Lords

I just mentioned that, so I wonder if the noble Lord was listening to me. The European Parliament did sack the Commissioners, but they were all reappointed—virtually all of them except for Madame Cresson.

I shall give way again so that the noble Lord can tell me what really happened.

Member
Lord Lilley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 October 2019
Reference
800 cc107-8
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House of Lords

I believe that what the noble Lord has just told me is that it reappointed the slate, and that is broadly my recollection. But in practice it does not. However, what I said about the experience of southern Europe not leading to anyone being removed is a simple fact.

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Lord Lilley (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 October 2019
Reference
800 c108
House
House of Lords

That is exactly what I said. The desire to suggest that I did not say things that I did say is interesting.

I believe that it would be better if our laws are made in this country, that our borders are controlled from this country and that our money is spent...

Member
Lord Lilley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 October 2019
Reference
800 c108
House
House of Lords

May I express my gratitude? Our trade with all countries outside the European Union is greater than our trade with the European Union and has grown faster than our trade with the European Union. That is why the share of our trade with the European Union has fallen from 60%...

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Lord Lilley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 October 2019
Reference
800 c109
House
House of Lords

Although I was not here, I was under the impression that the Act required to hold a referendum was voted through by 498 MPs in that House but not opposed by this House. To attribute it to one party is, therefore, incorrect.

Member
Lord Lilley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 October 2019
Reference
800 c111
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to my noble friend for saying that. I take this opportunity to put the record straight and apologise to the House. I said that no Commission had ever resigned en masse. Actually, one did. I said that only Madame Cresson resigned. Actually, most of them were not...

Member
Lord Lilley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 October 2019
Reference
800 c152
House
House of Lords