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Type
House of Commons papers; Select Committee written evidence; Parliamentary committees
Committee
Defence Committee
Date
11 December 2018
Reference
HC 1560 2017-19
House
House of Commons
Type
Select Committee reports; House of Commons papers; Parliamentary committees
Committee
Joint Committee on the National Security Strategy
Date
12 November 2018
Reference
HC 1708 2017-19; HL 222 2017-19
House
House of Lords; House of Commons

My Lords, we face a huge challenge and, as the noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, said, collaboration and innovation are key. This is not something that can be tackled by the security services alone, although they are doing a very great deal. We need to find a way of involving all...

Member
Lord Lucas (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc572-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, on instigating a debate on this important topic. We have had a mention of Drake’s drum, so it would be remiss of me not to mention the Battle of Trafalgar, which took place this week, 213 years ago—no cyber there, I...

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc574-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too congratulate my noble friend on this very timely debate. As so often, I shall be sailing largely in the wake of the noble Lord, Lord West.

The term cyber is shorthand. As this debate has already shown, it covers an enormous spectrum of issues, which is not...

Member
Lord Ricketts (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc577-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it seems to me that cyber threats fall into two categories, which are separated by complexity: first, the highly sophisticated attacks, often those sponsored by foreign states; and, secondly, the simpler, basic attacks, often by individuals or small groups of hackers. No doubt we will hear that the...

Member
Lord Borwick (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc579-580
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will make a few remarks. When I read the excellent briefing note from the Library, I was trying to think about what one could add to it and how one could think about it in some other way. I declare two interests. First, for some years I...

Member
Earl of Erroll (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc580-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I draw your Lordships’ attention to my entry in the register of interests, particularly my association with and employment by the Nuclear Threat Initiative, a US-based think tank. I congratulate the noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, on securing this debate and commend him for corralling this massive topic into...

Member
Lord Browne of Ladyton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc584-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too thank my noble friend Lord Waverley for introducing this topical and important subject. I declare my interests in cybersecurity as listed in the register. Unlike other noble Lords, I wish to devote almost all my remarks to the impact of cyber threats on the economy, in...

Member
Lord St John of Bletso (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc586-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I join other noble Lords in congratulating the noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, on securing this debate, which has been wide-ranging. It has moved from kettles to China, from spying to crime and to botnet threats. I look forward to the Minister encapsulating the debate in his response. For...

Member
Lord Fox (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc589-593
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as other noble Lords have done, I congratulate the noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, on securing this debate. I thank him for giving the House the opportunity to debate issues of immense importance to the country.

I am sure everyone agrees that the threats posed and the risks involved mean...

Member
Lord Kennedy of Southwark (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc593-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this has been an excellent debate and I thank all the speakers who have brought a wide range and depth of experience and expertise to it, not least the mover, the noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, who made a thoughtful introduction and crammed 15 helpful suggestions into three minutes...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc595-7
House
House of Lords

Before the Minister moves on from skills, I asked whether the right ministry was carrying accountability for skills at a national level. All the examples he gave referred to ministries other than the department that has it.

Member
Lord Fox (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 c597
House
House of Lords

I was referring to the responsibilities of the Department for Education. The relevant Minister is sitting at my side and will have heard that. We will write to the noble Lord, giving a more detailed reply on the role of that department, if that is what he wants.

The Government actively...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc597-8
House
House of Lords

Has this been debated at Cabinet level? Bearing in mind that it has an impact on so many departments, it really needs to be looked at in the round, so I would be grateful for an answer.

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 c598
House
House of Lords

I am sure the noble Lord would be grateful for an answer, but I do not have one. I do not know whether it has been debated in Cabinet or in a Cabinet sub-committee. However, within the constraints of what happens within the machinery of government, which the noble Lord...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 c598
House
House of Lords

Is the Minister concerned about H1K and the fact that CCTV will now have sound and that when it is 5G enabled every one of those things will be able to take down data and pass it on? Where do we stand on this?

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 c598
House
House of Lords

When we discussed this yesterday, the noble Lord was concerned about the installation within the Palace of Westminster of this capacity, which could indeed read stuff that was on my desk. I think this is primarily a matter for the authorities within the parliamentary estate. I will share with them...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc598-600
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am sorry to ask the Minister to give way again. I do not always share the views of my noble friend Lord Browne on some of these issues, but on the Dreadnought programme, which is crucial, could the Minister maybe go back to the Secretary of State...

Member
Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 c600
House
House of Lords

I take very seriously such a warning coming from the noble Lord. I will share of course his concerns with my right honourable friend the Secretary of State for Defence and get him to write to him.

While it is difficult to avoid headlines about attacks and breaches, doing something about...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 October 2018
Reference
793 cc600-1
House
House of Lords