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To ask Her Majesty’s Government what was the total cost of providing education in private schools for the families of members of the armed forces in each of the last thirteen years.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what was the total cost of providing education in private schools for the families of members of the armed forces in each of the last thirteen years.
Asked by
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay
(Liberal Democrat)
Answered by
Lord Astor of Hever
(Conservative)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
22 December 2010
The Continuity of Education Allowance (CEA) is provided to enable service personnel whose children accompany them on necessary relocations achieve continuity of education that is not achievable through the day school system. Details of these costs are only held for Financial Years 2007-08, 2008-09 and 2009-10 and can be found in the following table. Prior to the implementation of the Joint Personnel Administration System this information was held on single service legacy systems and as such could only be provided at disproportionate cost.
In addition to the money paid to service personnel, the Ministry of Defence also pays Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs for tax and national insurance following the grossing up of the allowance. Therefore, the figures quoted in the table reflect the total cost to the department for the past three financial years.
| Financial Year | Amount (£m) |
| 2007-08 | 162.2 |
| 2008-09 | 172.8 |
| 2009-10 | 176.8 |
Subjects
Children; Armed forces; Expenditure; Private education; Schools
Date
22 December 2010
Reference
5162; 723 c321WA
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what are the annualised costs of applying visa regulations to pupils aged under 19 who have secured plans to study full time at independent schools affiliated to the Independent Schools Council; and what benefit to the United Kingdom is derived from those costs.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what are the annualised costs of applying visa regulations to pupils aged under 19 who have secured plans to study full time at independent schools affiliated to the Independent Schools Council; and what benefit to the United Kingdom is derived from those costs.
Asked by
Lord Lucas
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Hill of Oareford
(Conservative)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
22 December 2010
The Government do not collect this information.
Subjects
Costs; Entry clearances; Private education; Overseas students; Schools; Visas
Date
22 December 2010
Reference
3879; 723 c358WA
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government, further to the Written Answer by Baroness Neville-Jones on 24 November (WA 362), what is the annual number of confirmation of acceptance of studies for non-European Union foreign students assigned to eachindividual private sector college and school; and how many such acceptances relate to students...
To ask Her Majesty’s Government, further to the Written Answer by Baroness Neville-Jones on 24 November (WA 362), what is the annual number of confirmation of acceptance of studies for non-European Union foreign students assigned to eachindividual private sector college and school; and how many such acceptances relate to students...
Asked by
Lord Laird
(Ulster Unionist Party)
Answered by
Baroness Neville-Jones
(Conservative)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
16 December 2010
It is not possible to provide information on the annual allocation of certificates of acceptance for studies (CaS) because there is no set allocation period. Allocation periods are specific to individual sponsors. Some sponsors may request an additional allocation of CaS in year, which will extend beyond the end date of the original allocation, and some sponsors may apply and join the register part way through a year.
Subjects
Entry clearances; Private education; Overseas students
Date
16 December 2010
Reference
4904; 723 c213-4WA
House
House of Lords
As announced following the strategic defence and security review, the Ministry of Defence is reviewing the broad range of allowances paid to service personnel. Work is ongoing to define fully the package of changes, but we are now able to announce some changes to the continuity of education allowance (CEA)....
As announced following the strategic defence and security review, the Ministry of Defence is reviewing the broad range of allowances paid to service personnel. Work is ongoing to define fully the package of changes, but we are now able to announce some changes to the continuity of education allowance (CEA)....
Member
Nick Harvey
(Liberal Democrat)
Department
Ministry of Defence
Type
Written statements
Subjects
Children; Armed forces; Allowances; Boarding schools; Eligibility; Private education
Date
16 December 2010
Reference
520 c116WS
House
House of Commons
My honourable friend the Minister of State for the Armed Forces (Nick Harvey) has made the following Written Ministerial Statement. As announced following the Strategic Defence and Security Review, the Ministry of Defence is reviewing the broad range of allowances paid to service personnel. Work is ongoing to define fully...
My honourable friend the Minister of State for the Armed Forces (Nick Harvey) has made the following Written Ministerial Statement. As announced following the Strategic Defence and Security Review, the Ministry of Defence is reviewing the broad range of allowances paid to service personnel. Work is ongoing to define fully...
Member
Lord Astor of Hever
(Conservative)
Department
Ministry of Defence
Type
Written statements
Subjects
Children; Armed forces; Allowances; Boarding schools; Eligibility; Private education
Date
16 December 2010
Reference
723 c117-8WS
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether independent schools registered as charities can convert to academies; and whether they would be allowed to raise additional income through fees if they did so.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether independent schools registered as charities can convert to academies; and whether they would be allowed to raise additional income through fees if they did so.
Asked by
Lord Willis of Knaresborough
(Liberal Democrat)
Answered by
Lord Hill of Oareford
(Conservative)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
14 December 2010
Independent schools registered as charities can convert to academy status. The Academies Act 2010 prevents academies from charging fees for admission or education subject to limited exceptions. Such exceptions might include after-hours clubs or tuition.
Where independent schools convert to academies, they may have non-European economic area pupils who are eligible to remain in the UK only on condition that they do not access state (non-fee-paying) education. In such cases, the academy is required under its funding agreement to charge fees to meet the full costs of providing education for such pupils.
Subjects
Fees and charges; Private education; Academies
Date
14 December 2010
Reference
4062; 723 c176-7WA
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government how many pupils studying full time at an independent school affiliated to the International Schools Council have subsequently become illegal immigrants.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government how many pupils studying full time at an independent school affiliated to the International Schools Council have subsequently become illegal immigrants.
Asked by
Lord Lucas
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Hill of Oareford
(Conservative)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
1 December 2010
The Government do not collect this information. Matters relating to illegal immigration are a matter for the Home Office and the United Kingdom Border Agency.
Since the dismantling of embarkation controls it has not been possible to estimate accurately the number of people, such as students, who have overstayed their limited leave to enter or remain in the UK.
The wider immigration programme, contained in The Coalition: Our Programme for Government, published on 20 May, includes a commitment to support e-Borders and reintroduce entry and exit checks.
Subjects
Undocumented migrants; Private education; Students
Date
1 December 2010
Reference
3880; 722 c463WA
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether they maintain and collate statistics on the numbers of foreign students granted visas to study at particular private colleges; and whether they will publish the number of visas issued per college annually.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether they maintain and collate statistics on the numbers of foreign students granted visas to study at particular private colleges; and whether they will publish the number of visas issued per college annually.
Asked by
Lord Laird
(Ulster Unionist Party)
Answered by
Baroness Neville-Jones
(Conservative)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
24 November 2010
The UK Border Agency does not maintain statistics on the number of student visas issued for study at individual colleges, whether in the private or public sector. This information is not held centrally and could be obtained only by checking individual visa application records, and therefore at a disproportionate cost. There is no plan to publish this information.
The agency monitors the number of confirmation of acceptance of studies assigned to individual colleges. However, this information does not correspond directly to the number of visas issued as some prospective students may not apply for a visa and some will be refused a visa.
Subjects
Private education; Overseas students; Visas
Date
24 November 2010
Reference
3837; 722 c362WA
House
House of Lords
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence pursuant to the answer to the hon. Member for Edinburgh West of 10 November 2010, Official Report, column 391W, on armed forces: private education, how many service personnel of each rank received financial assistance from his Department through the continuity of education...
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence pursuant to the answer to the hon. Member for Edinburgh West of 10 November 2010, Official Report, column 391W, on armed forces: private education, how many service personnel of each rank received financial assistance from his Department through the continuity of education...
Asked by
Thomas Docherty
(Labour)
Answered by
Lord Robathan
(Conservative)
Answering body
Ministry of Defence
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Tabled on
12 November 2010
For answer on
17 November 2010
Answered on
19 November 2010
[holding answer 17 November 2010]: Continuity of education allowance (CEA) provides an important means of supporting accompanied service. However this allowance, along with all service allowances, is currently under review in order to ensure value for money.The number of service personnel identified by Army rank or equivalent and the associated payments of CEA in financial year 2009-10 is provided in the following table:
In addition, as elements of CEA are subject to a pay as you earn settlement agreement with Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs, the Ministry of Defence also paid £66 million for tax and national insurance following the grossing up of the allowance.
| Army rank or equivalent | Number of service personnel receiving CEA in FY 2009-10 | Cost of CEA in FY 2009-10 (£ million) |
| Lt/2nd Lt | 10 | 0.2 |
| Capt | 640 | 11.8 |
| Maj | 1,000 | 19.9 |
| Lt Col | 1,120 | 25.3 |
| Col | 480 | 10.6 |
| Brig | 160 | 3.6 |
| Maj Gen | 40 | 0.7 |
| Lt Gen | 10 | 0.1 |
| Gen | ¹— | ²— |
| Pte (Class 1-3) | 70 | 0.9 |
| L/Cpl | 50 | 0.7 |
| Cpl | 360 | 5.0 |
| Sgt | 680 | 10.2 |
| S/Sgt | 680 | 10.7 |
| WO2 | 470 | 7.2 |
| WOl | 260 | 4.4 |
| Grand total | 6,020 | 111.3 |
| ¹— Denotes fewer than five | ||
| ²— Denotes less than £0.5 million (£50,000) | ||
| Notes: | ||
| 1. Where personnel have been promoted during a financial year, only their most senior rank has been counted. | ||
| 2. The number of claimants is rounded to the nearest 10. | ||
| 3. Rounding has been applied to all figures. When rounding to the nearest 10, numbers ending in five have been rounded to the nearest multiple of 20 to prevent systematic bias. Totals have been rounded separately and therefore may not equal the sum of their rounded parts. |
Subjects
Armed forces; Private education
Date
19 November 2010
Reference
24636; 518 c965-6W
House
House of Commons
To ask the Secretary of State for Education what his policy is on tax relief for private schools.
To ask the Secretary of State for Education what his policy is on tax relief for private schools.
Asked by
Tom Blenkinsop
(Labour)
Answered by
David Gauke
(Conservative)
Answering body
Treasury
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Tabled on
2 November 2010
For answer on
4 November 2010
Answered on
10 November 2010
I have been asked to reply.Schools set up as charitable bodies that meet the definition of a charity for tax purposes are eligible for charitable tax reliefs in the same way as other charities. Non-charitable private schools are eligible for tax reliefs as for any other business.
Subjects
Private education; Tax allowances
Date
10 November 2010
Reference
22311; 518 c323-4W
House
House of Commons
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many children of service personnel receive funding from his Department to attend independent schools.
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many children of service personnel receive funding from his Department to attend independent schools.
Asked by
Mike Crockart
(Liberal Democrat)
Answered by
Lord Robathan
(Conservative)
Answering body
Ministry of Defence
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Tabled on
4 November 2010
For answer on
8 November 2010
Answered on
10 November 2010
For financial year 2009-10, there were 9,020 children of service personnel who attended fee paying schools and received financial assistance from the Ministry of Defence through the Continuity of Educational Allowance (CEA) scheme. It is not possible to differentiate independent schools so this figure includes all CEA eligible schools: private sector, public and state boarding schools.
Subjects
Armed forces; Private education
Date
10 November 2010
Reference
22765; 518 c391W
House
House of Commons
Deposited by
Home Office
Type
Deposited papers
Author
Home Office
Committed on
9 November 2010
Originated on
9 November 2010
Received on
10 November 2010
Subjects
Applications; Immigration; Private education; Overseas students; UK Border Agency
Date
9 November 2010
Reference
DEP2010-1962
House
House of Lords
To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he plans to review the value added tax exemption for private schools.
To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he plans to review the value added tax exemption for private schools.
Asked by
Tom Blenkinsop
(Labour)
Answered by
David Gauke
(Conservative)
Answering body
Treasury
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Tabled on
1 November 2010
For answer on
3 November 2010
Answered on
8 November 2010
European law exempts certain supplies of education from VAT, meaning that private schools do not charge VAT on the services they provide and are unable to recover VAT they incur on their costs. The Government have no plans to review these VAT rules.
Subjects
Private education; VAT
Date
8 November 2010
Reference
21997; 518 c101W
House
House of Commons
Is it not true that excellent quality, state boarding-school education is available in the United Kingdom at an average price of around £9,000 per annum, plus a £3,500 contribution towards tuition by the state as against public school fees of between £22,000 and £30,000 a year? Why cannot the Foreign Office save tens of millions of pounds by capping the amount of money that a Foreign Office official can claim to the level of state boarding-school fees?
Is it not true that excellent quality, state boarding-school education is available in the United Kingdom at an average price of around £9,000 per annum, plus a £3,500 contribution towards tuition by the state as against public school fees of between £22,000 and £30,000 a year? Why cannot the Foreign Office save tens of millions of pounds by capping the amount of money that a Foreign Office official can claim to the level of state boarding-school fees?
Asked by
Lord Campbell-Savours
(Labour)
Oral questions - 1st Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
1 November 2010
I am grateful to the noble Lord. It is true that state boarding-school places are excellent, but unfortunately it is not true that they are available. Diplomats with children who need to be educated when they go abroad to places where they cannot take their children—I have a list of 48 countries to which children are not allowed to be taken—need to find places quickly. However, they find that they are not at the top of the queue for the 5,000 boarding places available in state schools in this country. I appreciate very much the point that the noble Lord makes but it does not add up if you are trying to find a place for your child.
Subjects
Children; Allowances; Diplomatic service; Private education; Foreign and Commonwealth Office; Expenditure
Date
1 November 2010
Reference
721 c1422-3
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
I agree with the noble Lord, who obviously speaks with enormous authority on this subject. I would just add, referring back to my Answer to the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, that we are looking at ways of bringing the cost of this operation down. However, the basic requirement is that these children are educated; we do not want only childless diplomats. Therefore, we have had to make the provision that the noble Lord has just described. I believe that it should continue and that it is essential for an effective diplomatic effort by this country.
I agree with the noble Lord, who obviously speaks with enormous authority on this subject. I would just add, referring back to my Answer to the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, that we are looking at ways of bringing the cost of this operation down. However, the basic requirement is that these children are educated; we do not want only childless diplomats. Therefore, we have had to make the provision that the noble Lord has just described. I believe that it should continue and that it is essential for an effective diplomatic effort by this country.
Answered by
Lord Howell of Guildford
(Conservative)
Asked by
Lord Wright of Richmond
(Crossbench)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, I declare two interests. First, I was a beneficiary of these allowances for a large part of my career. Secondly, 19 years ago I gave evidence to the noble Lord, Lord Sheldon, and the Public Accounts Committee in support of these allowances, so I am somewhat biased. Does the Minister agree that the continuation of these allowances is essential as members of the Diplomatic Service are often posted abroad with very little notice and such allowances are necessary for the uninterrupted education of their children? Does he also agree that they are very much in line with those given by practically all international companies, and so are essential if recruitment and retention in the Diplomatic Service is to be preserved?
Subjects
Children; Allowances; Diplomatic service; Expenditure; Private education; Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Date
1 November 2010
Reference
721 c1423
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
There is no suggestion, as I made clear, that these allowances will be discontinued for the Diplomatic Service. I cannot comment on other branches of the Crown service or other public services because that is another question for which a rather different set of arrangements apply. The figures for which the noble Lord asks are that the ceiling for junior boarders in the current year is £7,239 per term and £8,236 for senior boarders, which is a reduction of £100 since last September. The figures are considerably lower for those attending as day pupils.
There is no suggestion, as I made clear, that these allowances will be discontinued for the Diplomatic Service. I cannot comment on other branches of the Crown service or other public services because that is another question for which a rather different set of arrangements apply. The figures for which the noble Lord asks are that the ceiling for junior boarders in the current year is £7,239 per term and £8,236 for senior boarders, which is a reduction of £100 since last September. The figures are considerably lower for those attending as day pupils.
Answered by
Lord Howell of Guildford
(Conservative)
Asked by
Lord Harrison
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Further to his first Answer, will the Minister say in simple pounds, shillings and pence what is the annual maximum tax-free contribution that can be made to the education at a secondary school of a child of a Foreign Office official? Secondly, will he rebut in their entirety articles in the Daily Mail and the Telegraph suggesting that this Government will abolish the continuity of education allowances which are so important to our Armed Forces and, indeed, the Foreign Office?
Subjects
Children; Allowances; Diplomatic service; Expenditure; Private education; Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Date
1 November 2010
Reference
721 c1423-4
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
I am grateful to my noble friend for that support. He is absolutely right but I shall correct him on one thing, if I may. It involves not only senior staff as 75 per cent of the children helped are of parents with quite junior salaries. The Foreign Office sends junior people to very difficult posts and they may have young children who need to be educated.
I am grateful to my noble friend for that support. He is absolutely right but I shall correct him on one thing, if I may. It involves not only senior staff as 75 per cent of the children helped are of parents with quite junior salaries. The Foreign Office sends junior people to very difficult posts and they may have young children who need to be educated.
Answered by
Lord Howell of Guildford
(Conservative)
Asked by
Lord Deben
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Does my noble friend agree that it is a very important part of keeping the best people in the Foreign Service that we provide this service for their young children, as without it we would not have the quality people whom we expect? It is about time that people stopped sniping at the Foreign Service on this issue.
Subjects
Children; Allowances; Diplomatic service; Expenditure; Private education; Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Date
1 November 2010
Reference
721 c1423
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
That is a very valuable thought. As far as Foreign and Commonwealth Office is concerned, the numbers are rather small. We are talking about a maximum of 2,000 children, of which only 500 are being educated in the United Kingdom. Given the circumstances of where these children go—whether to be near their grandparents or to where an available space is found—it is very difficult to concentrate on a single discount operation. This is slightly outside the question, but I believe that the Armed Forces are large enough to have a kind of discount arrangement, but we do not have the numbers or the weight to engineer that kind of system for the Foreign Office.
That is a very valuable thought. As far as Foreign and Commonwealth Office is concerned, the numbers are rather small. We are talking about a maximum of 2,000 children, of which only 500 are being educated in the United Kingdom. Given the circumstances of where these children go—whether to be near their grandparents or to where an available space is found—it is very difficult to concentrate on a single discount operation. This is slightly outside the question, but I believe that the Armed Forces are large enough to have a kind of discount arrangement, but we do not have the numbers or the weight to engineer that kind of system for the Foreign Office.
Answered by
Lord Howell of Guildford
(Conservative)
Asked by
Baroness Falkner of Margravine
(Liberal Democrat)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Will my noble friend comment on whether, given the large sums involved and these rather austere financial times, there are any efforts to have negotiations with DfID and the Ministry of Defence for a collective purchase agreement at a limited number of schools so that the costs might be constrained in that way?
Subjects
Children; Allowances; Diplomatic service; Expenditure; Private education; Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Date
1 November 2010
Reference
721 c1424
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, if the cap were to be reduced from over £25,000 per annum to the £13,000 to £14,000 that I am suggesting, surely that would create the demand in the state boarding school sector that the Minister said in his first reply is missing?
My Lords, if the cap were to be reduced from over £25,000 per annum to the £13,000 to £14,000 that I am suggesting, surely that would create the demand in the state boarding school sector that the Minister said in his first reply is missing?
Asked by
Lord Campbell-Savours
(Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
1 November 2010
My Lords, the difficulty that the noble Lord must appreciate is that although there are state boarding-school places, and perhaps there ought to more, they tend to be filled up very rapidly with children with real boarding needs from domestic households and families. Diplomats inevitably come along at the last minute, because postings sometimes have to be on an emergency basis, and they find that those places are filled. If the sums were reduced to the levels that the noble Lord is talking about, parents who are already on fairly modest salaries and are paying a contribution to meet the total requirements of the school where their children are being educated would simply not be able to afford it and the children would not be educated. We have to face it: if we want good diplomacy, we have to allow the children to be educated.
Subjects
Children; Allowances; Diplomatic service; Expenditure; Private education; Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Date
1 November 2010
Reference
721 c1424
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I declare two interests. First, I was a beneficiary of these allowances for a large part of my career. Secondly, 19 years ago I gave evidence to the noble Lord, Lord Sheldon, and the Public Accounts Committee in support of these allowances, so I am somewhat biased. Does the Minister agree that the continuation of these allowances is essential as members of the Diplomatic Service are often posted abroad with very little notice and such allowances are necessary for the uninterrupted education of their children? Does he also agree that they are very much in line with those given by practically all international companies, and so are essential if recruitment and retention in the Diplomatic Service is to be preserved?
My Lords, I declare two interests. First, I was a beneficiary of these allowances for a large part of my career. Secondly, 19 years ago I gave evidence to the noble Lord, Lord Sheldon, and the Public Accounts Committee in support of these allowances, so I am somewhat biased. Does the Minister agree that the continuation of these allowances is essential as members of the Diplomatic Service are often posted abroad with very little notice and such allowances are necessary for the uninterrupted education of their children? Does he also agree that they are very much in line with those given by practically all international companies, and so are essential if recruitment and retention in the Diplomatic Service is to be preserved?
Asked by
Lord Wright of Richmond
(Crossbench)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
1 November 2010
I agree with the noble Lord, who obviously speaks with enormous authority on this subject. I would just add, referring back to my Answer to the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, that we are looking at ways of bringing the cost of this operation down. However, the basic requirement is that these children are educated; we do not want only childless diplomats. Therefore, we have had to make the provision that the noble Lord has just described. I believe that it should continue and that it is essential for an effective diplomatic effort by this country.
Subjects
Children; Allowances; Diplomatic service; Expenditure; Private education; Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Date
1 November 2010
Reference
721 c1423
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords