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I am grateful for the contributions made by noble Lords. Let me start by reminding the Committee of our debate at Second Reading, when I clearly said that the next-stage review, High Quality Care for All, made a significant commitment to changing the culture of the NHS by stating that...

Member
Lord Darzi of Denham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c328-30GC
House
House of Lords

I add my note of scepticism to the notion of innovation prizes. I particularly want to ask the Minister about the timeframe. Major health innovations are often developed over many years. As regards the award of the Nobel Prize for chemistry, physics and medicine, over 10 or 15 years an...

Member
Baroness Murphy (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c327-8GC
House
House of Lords

Before I speak to the amendment, I would like to make a few general points and seek a bit of clarification on innovation prizes. Of course, everyone thinks that they are a good idea. They are one of those things that you could not possibly oppose, because we all want...

Member
Baroness Tonge (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c323-4GC
House
House of Lords

The Committee is supposed to wind up at six o’clock. It seems that we are unlikely to get through this important debate in that time; in fact, we are now over time. Therefore, I wish to move two Motions. I beg to move that the debate on the Question that...

Member
Baroness Thornton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c380GC
House
House of Lords

In response to that point, I would simply suggest that I am not so confident about that when a group of young kids goes into a shop. I am impressed by the point-of-sale evidence. The fact is that it has taken over as the main marketing tool for cigarettes. If...

Member
Baroness Meacher (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c377GC
House
House of Lords

Yes, but it is not the nicotine that kills. Nicotine does not cause lung cancer. It may be addictive, but it is not the nicotine that is the problem. It is the materials in the smoke, as I understand it from the medical profession, that cause the problems with lung...

Member
Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Independent Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c374GC
House
House of Lords

That is from the medical profession. There is another article in the Daily Mail of Friday, 27 February 2009, which states: ""Our lifestyles are killing us. Poor diets, drinking and lack of exercise blamed for 78,000 cancer cases a year"." There is nothing about smoking in that headline. That 78,000...

Member
Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Independent Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c373GC
House
House of Lords

I am being kind. The fact is, though, that he never did anything of this sort. It did not even enter his mind that the Germans would put up with not being able to display their tobacco products, particularly pipe products. That is what I am saying. Where are we...

Member
Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Independent Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c373GC
House
House of Lords

I want to return to those points. I am somewhat surprised that the noble Earl, Lord Howe, seeks to talk on behalf of retailers in the kingdom, but has not sought any briefing or spoken to retailers in the area I come from, which is Northern Ireland. If anyone is...

Member
Lord Laird (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c370-1GC
House
House of Lords

To answer the noble Lord, we are in a situation where Parliament is clearly not going to outlaw tobacco. Given that that is the case, any measures to restrict what is still a legal product have to be weighed up in terms of the evidence for and against them. I...

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c371GC
House
House of Lords

I follow the noble Earl, who made an impressive and powerful speech. One can sum it up by indicating his view that an inadequate case has been made by the Government for the ban on the display of tobacco products. The Government’s case ignores the fact that the display one...

Member
Lord Borrie (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c368-9GC
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to my noble friend. It is not just me who is saying this; the Norwegian Ministry of Health commented on the Icelandic data showing a reduction in overall smoking prevalence. It said: ""There are no indications to prove that this reduction is a result of the ban...

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c366GC
House
House of Lords

Has the noble Earl discussed this with the retailers in Northern Ireland who support the ban? Has he discussed it with the political party in Northern Ireland which is now in a relationship with his political party, which also supports the ban?

Member
Lord Laird (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c368GC
House
House of Lords

Before we leave that point, if there is evidence from around the world where a ban has been imposed it is important that we evaluate it, not just turn a blind eye to it. My noble friend has analysed two examples given by Her Majesty’s Government and shot them through....

Member
Lord Naseby (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c366GC
House
House of Lords

You cannot say that.

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c365GC
House
House of Lords

I am aware that the Saskatchewan Government believe that this has made a contribution to the decline in smoking prevalence. On what they base that decision, I do not know.

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c364GC
House
House of Lords

I think I would like to thank everyone who took part in the debate. I thank the Minister for her answer, but she was wrong. I was not concerned about the burden of regulation on shopkeepers; people will know from Second Reading that I have not found those arguments particularly...

Member
Baroness Barker (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c363GC
House
House of Lords

As the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, indicated, large quantities of briefing material have been circulated. I have seen it and I would be happy to make available to the noble Lord illustrations of existing displays and how they might look if gantries were used. I shall also be happy to...

Member
Baroness Thornton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c362GC
House
House of Lords

The noble Earl and others have mentioned the legality of the product. Indeed, the noble Earl quoted Yvette Cooper saying that it is legal. But surely he is aware that if we had known of the damaging effects of smoking tobacco when it was first widely used, it almost certainly...

Member
Lord Rea (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c371GC
House
House of Lords

Yes—heart trouble and cancer. Red wine was going to cure everything. That is why drinking went up. People thought, "I will live longer". The second article is on the same page of the Daily Telegraph of 25 February and states: ""Obesity is as deadly as smoking, say doctors"." I repeat:...

Member
Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Independent Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
5 March 2009
Reference
708 c372-3GC
House
House of Lords