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To ask His Majesty’s Government what steps they intend to take in response to the report by the Independent Commission for Aid Impact UK aid to Afghanistan: Country portfolio review, published on 24 November 2022; and in particular, its assessment that “channelling funding in such high volumes through weak state institutions distorted the political process and contributed to entrenched corruption”.

Asked by
Lord Browne of Ladyton (Labour)
Oral questions - Lead
Status
Answered
Date
11 January 2023
Reference
826 cc1410-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the UK Government welcome the commission’s report and provided our formal response on 10 January. In Afghanistan, we are no longer providing support through the state. We recognise that large-scale financial support in conflict-affected contexts can come with considerable risk. We will work with ICAI and colleagues across departments to fully assess the impact of these recommendations on wider government policies. We will continue to press the Taliban Government to recognise the inalienable rights of women and girls.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
11 January 2023
Reference
826 c1410
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the department is and has been looking at other mechanisms, including blockchain, for delivering aid more effectively and minimising the risk of corruption, which is always there in the main trouble spots around the world—which include Afghanistan and, for different reasons, Ukraine. Notwithstanding its recommendations, the ICAI report was also very complimentary about the positive influence the UK has had in Afghanistan, in leveraging significant sums of finance from some of the multilateral development banks and ensuring that our own investments yield the kinds of results that taxpayers expect.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
11 January 2023
Reference
826 c1411
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I do not have details of upcoming conferences, but I will certainly put that question to my colleague, my noble friend Lord Ahmad, in whose portfolio that sits. It is of course the case that we work with friends and partners internationally on a continuous, routine basis to try to figure out the best approach to the problems in Afghanistan we are discussing, not least recent decisions by the Taliban to ban women taking part and working in NGOs and to prevent women and girls going to secondary school and university. All these issues are incredibly complicated and it is our view that no one donor country, or any country alone, can solve these problems. It is through these international partnerships that we have the most impact.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
11 January 2023
Reference
826 c1411
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we regularly press the Taliban on a wide range of human rights issues, including the rights of women and girls. Our view is that educated, empowered women are critical to economic development, peace and stability right across the country, and that without them the country will not achieve stability or prosperity. We continue to work with the international community, including the G7, the G20 and various UN bodies, to press the Taliban to reverse their decision and to try to understand the implications of the recent ban, particularly in relation to women and girls working in NGOs, to try to ascertain the best possible mechanisms we can use to support those NGOs to continue their work.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
11 January 2023
Reference
826 c1412
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the second recommendation of the ICAI report relates to the point the noble Lord made. It was that UK aid should not be used to fund police or other security agencies to engage in paramilitary operations

“as this entails … risks of doing harm. Any support for civilian security agencies should focus on providing security and justice to the public.”

We accept that recommendation in full. It is worth again putting on the record that UK ODA funding in Afghanistan has never paid for paramilitary operations.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
11 January 2023
Reference
826 c1412
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as I said in response to another question, we are routinely engaging with partners around the world to try to inhibit the worst excesses of the Taliban. We engage directly with the Taliban but that is not the same as recognising them—the distinction is important. As regards specific minorities within Afghanistan who are feeling the sharp end of Taliban oppression, I will need to ask my colleague, my noble friend Lord Ahmad, to report back to the noble Lord.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
11 January 2023
Reference
826 c1412
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I believe that so far 6,300 eligible people have been resettled through the first phase of the Afghan citizens resettlement scheme, and that was targeted specifically at those who assisted our efforts in Afghanistan, as well as at vulnerable people, which includes members of minority groups. The scheme is expected to provide up to 20,000 people with a safe and legal route to resettle in the UK. Of course, this is a Home Office responsibility but the FCDO works very closely with that department to make sure that the programme remains accessible and effective.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
11 January 2023
Reference
826 c1413
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is very difficult. The decision by the Taliban—which, by the way, has no basis in morality or religion—is a clear breach of international humanitarian principles as accepted by everyone and is yet another violation of the fundamental rights of Afghan women. The reality is that as a consequence of this ban it is very difficult for NGOs in that country to deliver the kinds of services and support that they provided, which is why our principal goal has to be to heap pressure on the Taliban to reverse this decision. Until that decision is reversed, I am afraid that there is no easy answer to the noble Baroness’s question.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
11 January 2023
Reference
826 c1413
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am not close enough to the process to give the noble Baroness chapter and verse but, as I said, our expectation is that when that first phase is completed, 20,000 people will have received safe and legal passage into the UK.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
11 January 2023
Reference
826 c1413
House
House of Lords

To ask Her Majesty’s Government what representations they received concerning the evacuation of Pen Farthing and his animals from Kabul.

Asked by
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock (Labour)
Oral questions - Lead
Status
Answered
Date
2 February 2022
Reference
818 cc904-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, people, not animals, were the priority during the Kabul evacuation. As a British

national, Mr Pen Farthing was offered evacuation as part of the organised airlift, which he declined. The decision to call forward the Nowzad staff was communicated by the Defence Secretary publicly, in tweets, on the morning of 25 August, and reiterated to the FCDO via the Cabinet Office later that day. The UK military, with the Defence Secretary’s authorisation, provided practical support for a private chartered plane organised by Nowzad. This flight occurred after the civilian evacuation had come to an end during Operation Pitting. It is worth just saying that 15,000 vulnerable people were evacuated from Kabul.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 February 2022
Reference
818 c904
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the email that the noble Lord mentioned says nothing of the sort and confirms nothing of the sort. A decision to call forward the Nowzad team was communicated by the Defence Secretary on the morning of the 25th. The Prime Minister had zero role in authorising individual evacuations from Afghanistan during Operation Pitting. The PM has made this clear, the Defence Secretary has made it repeatedly clear, other Ministers have made it clear and so have I in this House and outside of this Chamber. We got more than 15,000 people out during that process; it was the biggest and fastest evacuation in our history. Animals were never prioritised over people.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 February 2022
Reference
818 c905
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I can absolutely provide that reassurance. I add that Pen Farthing was on one of the very last flights to leave Afghanistan; he left on his own charter plane rather than on an RAF flight. It was not part of the evacuation effort, and the flight took place after the evacuation effort had ceased. That private plane landed in Kabul on 28 August. Animals were never prioritised over people at any point during the process.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 February 2022
Reference
818 c905
House
House of Lords

I do not accept the premise of the question on any level at all. This was an extraordinarily difficult time, particularly for officials in FCDO. There were people who were working two jobs all day and almost all night, dealing with thousands upon thousands of emails with evacuation requests every single day. Their work was heroic. It has been made clear that the PM did not weigh in on the Nowzad case. I do not deny that there is some confusion. It is not uncommon in Whitehall—as anyone who has been a Minister knows—for decisions to be interpreted or portrayed as coming directly from one department or another or even the Prime Minister, even when that is not the case. In this instance, that is not relevant because the decision was made publicly and directly by the Secretary of State, as he has made clear.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 February 2022
Reference
818 c906
House
House of Lords

I can answer half the question. I cannot tell the noble Lord why the confusion arose, other than that it was a particularly complicated time, but I can say that at the time the email was sent, the staff member who the noble Lord mentions was seconded to that emergency evacuations unit at the FCDO and was emailing in that capacity. The email was not sent under my instruction or with my knowledge; it was part of a wider process.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 February 2022
Reference
818 c906
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as I said, it was an exceptional emergency situation. In normal circumstances, we do not recommend the movement of consignments of animals, particularly large consignments. We take biosecurity very seriously. On landing in this country, the cats and dogs were transferred to prearranged quarantine facilities where they will have to remain for four months or until they have completed the rabies risk management process

fully. The process ensures that animals meet the highest standards and protects our rabies-free status, which of course we value greatly.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 February 2022
Reference
818 c906
House
House of Lords

I suspect that, like every MP, and probably every person in this House, I experienced an extraordinarily effective campaign mobilising people to write emails to their representatives. So, like everyone, I received hundreds, maybe thousands of emails from people on this issue, but my position—in writing, on the record—has always been that animals should never have been, and were not, prioritised over people. The noble Baroness asked about specific representation. I could spend hours, probably, relaying the torrent of emails that was received, but I will add one further thing: at no point did the Government as a whole receive any kind of authorisation on this issue, one way or the other, from the Prime Minister, who had no involvement at all. I think that was the point of the Question that was put to me and I emphasise that again.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 February 2022
Reference
818 c907
House
House of Lords

I think that is a completely nonsense question. The idea that the Prime Minister should be engaged in issues around the welfare of a handful of animals when we were engaging, as a Government, in one of the biggest—indeed, the biggest—evacuations this country has ever been involved in is just absurd. I would be appalled if the Prime Minister had been involved in such minutiae, frankly. As I said, we got 17,000 people out in a very short period of time. That is a record—it has never happened before. I think we can salute our Armed Forces and those officials who worked incredibly hard to pull off an extraordinary feat.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 February 2022
Reference
818 c907
House
House of Lords

That is a very good point.

Answered by
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 February 2022
Reference
818 c907
House
House of Lords