Backbench debate on Thursday, 25 May 2023, in the House of Commons, led by Jim Shannon. The answering members were Robert Jenrick and Stephen Kinnock.
Inshore Industry Fishing Crews: Visas
Motion that this House has considered visa arrangements for inshore industry fishing crews. Agreed to on question. Sitting adjourned without Question put.
Secondary information
- Type
- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 733 c214WH
- Session
- 2022-23
- Department
- Home Office
- Chamber / Committee
- Westminster Hall
- Related items
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Government policy on visas for foreign workers on inshore fishing vessels
Wednesday, 24 May 2023
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- Proceeding contributions
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Jim Shannon | 733 cc214-186WH (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered visa arrangements for inshore industry fishin...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c186WH (Link to this contribution)
I anticipate that we will hear the same sort of thing from the Minister that we heard from him in...
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Jim Shannon | 733 c186WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank my friend and colleague for that comment. I agree. I see it in Portavogie, in Ardglass an...
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David Duguid | 733 c186WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman talks about the cramped living conditions on a fishing boat. When I was at sch...
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Jim Shannon | 733 cc186-190WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for his intervention. He understands, as we all do, the practicalities, p...
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Anthony Mangnall | 733 cc190-1WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Vickers. I congratulate the hon. Member for...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c191WH (Link to this contribution)
For the sake of argument, let us say that we do manage to train people to the B1 level in order t...
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Anthony Mangnall | 733 cc192-3WH (Link to this contribution)
That is quite possible but, again, what is the purpose of this debate? What are we trying to do h...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c193WH (Link to this contribution)
As ever, it is a pleasure to serve under your stewardship, Mr Vickers. I, too, congratulate the h...
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David Duguid | 733 c193WH (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is right that the outcome of the TCA did not meet all expectations, but ...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 cc194-6WH (Link to this contribution)
There are constitutional issues that the hon. Gentleman and I are part of the debate on and have ...
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David Duguid | 733 cc196-7WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Vickers. I, too, congratulate the hon. Memb...
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Anthony Mangnall | 733 c197WH (Link to this contribution)
Of course, the debate is about the arrangements, but there is also the broader point about where ...
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David Duguid | 733 cc197-8WH (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a perfectly valid point. That impacts the owners of smaller boats more than ...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c198WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member forces me to intervene with his second reference to his meeting with the Minister...
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David Duguid | 733 c198WH (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure I want to give away any trade secrets, but, as I am sure the Minister will attest t...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c198WH (Link to this contribution)
As I said, we have young skippers taking on new boats in Shetland. If their experience is not fin...
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David Duguid | 733 cc198-200WH (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right to make that point. Not only is the industry activel...
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David Duguid | 733 c200WH (Link to this contribution)
I thought that might prompt a response. I think it is in October or November. Fishing happens all...
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Brendan O'Hara | 733 cc200-1WH (Link to this contribution)
As always, Mr Vickers, it is a pleasure to see you in the Chair for this afternoon’s debate on vi...
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David Duguid | 733 c201WH (Link to this contribution)
In my remarks, I asked for more constructive engagement. However, would the hon. Member join me a...
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Brendan O'Hara | 733 c201WH (Link to this contribution)
Absolutely. Despite having been there so many times in the past, I—and I am sure he, and every ot...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c201WH (Link to this contribution)
I am never going to give up on this. I think we have made that very clear. However, the reason wh...
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Brendan O'Hara | 733 cc201-3WH (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely share the right hon. Gentleman’s frustration. It seems that, no matter who we speak ...
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Stephen Kinnock | 733 cc203-5WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Mr Vickers. I pay tribute to the hon. Member for ...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 cc205-6WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mrs Murray. I am grateful to the hon. Member f...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c206WH (Link to this contribution)
Earlier today in the House, the Minister said that the package had been welcomed by the fishing i...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c206WH (Link to this contribution)
My Department has told me that stake- holders have welcomed it, and I think it is a good package....
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Brendan O'Hara | 733 c206WH (Link to this contribution)
What exactly is the definition of a large fishing boat?
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Robert Jenrick | 733 cc206-7WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member’s knowledge of the fishing sector is superior to mine. I do not know the exact de...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c207WH (Link to this contribution)
What help is that to the constituent I referenced who still owes £680,000 to the bank, and who ca...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c207WH (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate the urgency of the issue, but it is important that the sector plays its part in cons...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c207WH (Link to this contribution)
Is it the Minister’s position today that the same people—the same stakeholders in the industry —w...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c207WH (Link to this contribution)
No, it is not. As with any sector of the economy, there is a role for Government in producing an ...
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Jim Shannon | 733 c208WH (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that any of us here do not welcome the training money and the opportunities it wil...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c208WH (Link to this contribution)
I was coming to that point. I was not going to conclude my remarks without addressing it properly...
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Anthony Mangnall | 733 c208WH (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the hon. Member for Strangford for jumping in on the back of his question. The fun...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c208WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that ask, and I will certainly relay the feedback to the Secr...
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David Duguid | 733 c208WH (Link to this contribution)
I do not think anybody in this Chamber today would disagree on the need to avoid labour abuse. Bu...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c209WH (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to overstate it, but I know from my conversations with officials in the Department ...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c209WH (Link to this contribution)
Why did the Minister include Sule Skerry within the definition of waters to which the Act applies...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c209WH (Link to this contribution)
I was interested to hear the point that the right hon. Gentleman made in his speech. As I underst...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 c209WH (Link to this contribution)
It is in our interests to try to polish this particular item, because it could make a real differ...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c209WH (Link to this contribution)
I would be happy to make further inquiries and come back to the right hon. Gentleman. As I unders...
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Brendan O'Hara | 733 c209WH (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate that the Minister is being very generous. It is not about carving out certain parts ...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c209WH (Link to this contribution)
I understand that, and I apologise if I gave the impression that this affects a small part of UK ...
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David Duguid | 733 c209WH (Link to this contribution)
I suspect that the point made by the right hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland (Mr Carmichael) eq...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c210WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that. The point is registered. I will make inquiries and revert to all hon. Mem...
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Stephen Kinnock | 733 c210WH (Link to this contribution)
On labour market abuses, will the Minister set out the timeline for his Government’s implementati...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 cc210-1WH (Link to this contribution)
We do not have a timetable at present, but we are working with the relevant stakeholders, such as...
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Jim Shannon | 733 c211WH (Link to this contribution)
If I heard the Minister right, I believe the Department was prepared to consider A2. The hon. Mem...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c211WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that. I assure him that I will take that request away and...
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Alistair Carmichael | 733 cc211-2WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way—although we still have an hour and a quarter. He has...
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Robert Jenrick | 733 c212WH (Link to this contribution)
I would be pleased to meet the right hon. Gentleman and his constituents. I have met the hon. Mem...
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Jim Shannon | 733 cc212-4WH (Link to this contribution)
First of all, I thank all the Members here today for their significant contributions to the debat...
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- Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Employment Fisheries Immigration controls Inshore fishing English language Northern Ireland Recruitment Migrant workers Training Safety Visas Scottish islands UK Seafood Fund
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