Debate on Wednesday, 25 November 2020, in the House of Commons, led by Jacob Rees-Mogg. The answering member was Valerie Vaz.
Independent Expert Panel
Motion to appoint members of the Independent Expert Panel, in accordance with Standing Order No. 150C and Standing Order No. 150A. Agreed to on question.
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- Parliamentary proceeding
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- 684 cc932-887
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- 2019-21
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- House of Commons chamber
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Report of the House of Commons Commission on Members of the Independent Expert Panel: Nomination of Candidates
Thursday, 19 November 2020
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 cc875-6 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,
That:
(1) in accordance with Standing Order No. 150C (Appointment of I...
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Lord Spellar | 684 c876 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Leader of the House tell us how much the chairman is going to be paid for this job?
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c877 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, I can. Members of the independent expert panel, including the chairman, will be paid mont...
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Lord Spellar | 684 c877 (Link to this contribution)
When I looked up the link from the report which referred to the advertisement for the job, it sai...
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Eddie Hughes | 684 c877 (Link to this contribution)
Is the right hon. Gentleman going to apply?
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c877 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Member for Warley (John Spellar) would not have been eligible to apply because Mem...
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Lord Spellar | 684 c877 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman would not only be disqualified as a Member of Parliament; he referred to...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c877 (Link to this contribution)
I know that it is popular to be disparaging about lawyers, but it is sometimes unfair. The right ...
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Lord Spellar | 684 cc877-8 (Link to this contribution)
Again, the right hon. Gentleman seems to run slightly contrary to the advertisement for the posit...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c878 (Link to this contribution)
I can confirm to the right hon. Gentleman that 134 completed applications were received —no doubt...
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Bernard Jenkin | 684 c878 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely support the idea that we should bring on to the panel people who have juridical experi...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c878 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that point. Before the appointments were made, we had a numbe...
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Lord Beamish | 684 c878 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Leader of the House give way?
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c878 (Link to this contribution)
Of course I will give way to the right hon. Gentleman.
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Lord Beamish | 684 c878 (Link to this contribution)
Like the Leader of the House, I have no problem with the chair being a lawyer, and I accept what ...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 cc878-9 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is being unduly uncharitable towards lawyers. Lawyers can, in addition t...
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Lord Beamish | 684 c879 (Link to this contribution)
The Leader of the House is misreading what I said. If he listened to what I said, he would know t...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c879 (Link to this contribution)
I say once again that this panel has come from 134 applicants, and the most distinguished and cap...
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Lord Spellar | 684 c879 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid that the Leader of the House is reinforcing our case. It is not about whether any of ...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c880 (Link to this contribution)
I fundamentally disagree with the right hon. Gentleman. I think that the real-life experience of ...
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Andrea Leadsom | 684 c880 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c880 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to give way to my right hon. Friend and predecessor, who started this whole proc...
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Andrea Leadsom | 684 c880 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my right hon. Friend. I looked carefully at the CVs of the proposed members of t...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c880 (Link to this contribution)
That is an important point, and my right hon. Friend has raised it before in the House. The hope ...
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Valerie Vaz | 684 cc880-1 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Leader of the House for moving the motion, and I agree with the majority of his remar...
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Andrea Leadsom | 684 c881 (Link to this contribution)
I completely agree that it is not the panel’s jurisdiction or role to do that, but in a way that ...
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Valerie Vaz | 684 c881 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Lady for her comments. She leads me to go on to say that Alison Stanley di...
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Bernard Jenkin | 684 c881 (Link to this contribution)
I am here as a member of the Standards Committee, which has absolutely no jurisdiction over the a...
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Valerie Vaz | 684 cc881-2 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for making that intervention. I agree with him, and I hope that anybod...
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Bernard Jenkin | 684 cc882-3 (Link to this contribution)
I rise only briefly, as an observer rather than a participant. As I pointed out a minute ago, the...
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Patrick Grady | 684 c883 (Link to this contribution)
From the start, the SNP has welcomed and co-operated with the development and implementation of t...
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Bernard Jenkin | 684 c883 (Link to this contribution)
I just misled the House. The hon. Member for Perth and North Perthshire (Pete Wishart) would not ...
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Patrick Grady | 684 c883 (Link to this contribution)
It is slightly off topic, Madam Deputy Speaker, but the best way to find out would be for the Lea...
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Andrea Leadsom | 684 c884 (Link to this contribution)
I have a small point on undertaking the various training programmes, in particular the behaviour ...
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Patrick Grady | 684 c884 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. I do not know what any hon. Member’s reason for not taking part in it would be. We are al...
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Lord Spellar | 684 c884 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to introduce a slightly discordant note in the debate. It started with the Leader of t...
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Lord Beamish | 684 c885 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend was, like me, a trade union official in a former life and will have dealt wi...
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Lord Spellar | 684 c885 (Link to this contribution)
Very much so. Such people are used to engaging with people and having to make decisions. We could...
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Lord Beamish | 684 c885 (Link to this contribution)
Does my right hon. Friend agree that it would have been helpful to have had someone from the thir...
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Lord Spellar | 684 cc885-6 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. We could have people who have gone into those roles, often later in life, with a range of...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c886 (Link to this contribution)
May I begin by thanking the right hon. Member for Walsall South (Valerie Vaz) for her support and...
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Lord Spellar | 684 c886 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Leader of the House for giving way. I am sure he will forgive me for having looked at...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 684 c887 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, it is perfectly reasonable and proper for the right hon. Gentleman to have done precisely...
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- Complaints House of Commons Discrimination Pay Public appointments Members Staff Training Sexual offences Members' staff Independent Expert Panel for the Independent Complaints and Grievance Scheme
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