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Opposition day on Wednesday, 24 February 2016, in the House of Commons, led by Andy Burnham. The answering member was Baroness May of Maidenhead.

Police Funding, Crime and Community Safety

Nineteenth opposition day debate (part two). Negatived on division (193 to 279).

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
606 
Session
2015-16
Department
Home Office
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Andy Burnham | 606 cc379-380 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House recalls that the Chancellor announced in the Autumn Statemen...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 606 c380 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to go too far back in history, but if my right hon. Friend looks at 3 February 2010...

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Andy Burnham | 606 c380 (Link to this contribution)

I was just about to make that very point. The cuts that we are now facing come on top of the loss...

Karen Buck | 606 c380 (Link to this contribution)

Is my right hon. Friend also aware that commitments were given that the sale of police stations a...

Andy Burnham | 606 c380 (Link to this contribution)

The same story is repeated all over the country. I ask my hon. Friend to think about the cuts tha...

Stephen Doughty | 606 c380 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that there is a stark contrast with the approach that the Welsh L...

Andy Burnham | 606 cc380-1 (Link to this contribution)

I think that people will hear what my hon. Friend has said and make their own judgment. Who prote...

Kit Malthouse | 606 c381 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that the right hon. Gentleman is giving this a bit of welly as part of his rehabilit...

Andy Burnham | 606 cc381-2 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on to both points. I am doing fine, thanks. I hope that the hon. Gentleman can see th...

Andy Burnham | 606 c382 (Link to this contribution)

I can tell the hon. Gentleman now that the Leader of the Opposition said that that was simply not...

Lord McCabe | 606 c382 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that, in addition to the cuts, the 4.6% police precept rise in th...

Andy Burnham | 606 c382 (Link to this contribution)

The Government are cutting the police at national level, making local people in the west midlands...

Dawn Butler | 606 c382 (Link to this contribution)

Talking about cuts, we have lost 108 police officers and 104 PCSOs in my constituency since 2010....

Andy Burnham | 606 c382 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to that as well. The Bill we will debate in a week or so is all about having a part-t...

Andy Burnham | 606 cc382-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will make a little more progress, and then I will give way to my hon. Friend.

Let us just...

Andy Burnham | 606 c383 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the Home Secretary in a moment.

After the Paris attacks, the whole quest...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c383 (Link to this contribution)

When my hon. Friend the Member for North West Hampshire (Kit Malthouse), who was a distinguished ...

Andy Burnham | 606 cc383-4 (Link to this contribution)

When that press release was issued I said that up to 5% would be do-able—[Interruption.] No, I ha...

Catherine McKinnell | 606 c385 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making a powerful speech and highlighting the differential impacts, as we...

Andy Burnham | 606 c385 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The more deprived parts of the country have less ability to r...

Andy Burnham | 606 c385 (Link to this contribution)

The Home Secretary is shaking her head, and I am glad; I hope that she will tell me that that is ...

Tim Loughton | 606 c385 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened carefully to the shadow Home Secretary for 22 minutes, and his entire assessment ...

Andy Burnham | 606 c385 (Link to this contribution)

I could not have put it better myself. Vote Labour. Vote for a Labour PCC. Labour PCCs will work ...

Richard Fuller | 606 c385 (Link to this contribution)

On the point about additional funding for policing to plug some of the gaps that the right hon. G...

Andy Burnham | 606 cc385-6 (Link to this contribution)

I think it would be wrong, and I am very worried about the proposal to put fire under the control...

Andy Burnham | 606 c386 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way one final time.

Kit Malthouse | 606 c386 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise the issue that the right hon. Gentleman raises, but will he accept that we cannot pat...

Andy Burnham | 606 c386 (Link to this contribution)

What we should not do is to throw volunteers at it, which is the Home Secretary’s idea. [Interrup...

Debbie Abrahams | 606 c386 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for North West Hampshire (Kit Malthouse) is trying to suggest that there is no li...

Andy Burnham | 606 c386 (Link to this contribution)

That is directly the effect of what the Government have done, compared with what they inherited. ...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c387 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the shadow Home Secretary for giving way to me a second time. He is making an ar...

Andy Burnham | 606 c387 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not, because, as my hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Erdington said, the figures...

Steve Rotheram | 606 c387 (Link to this contribution)

It was suggested by the former deputy Mayor that these things can be done by sophisticated algori...

Andy Burnham | 606 c388 (Link to this contribution)

We have seen this cost cutting and privatisation elsewhere, haven’t we? Take NHS 111, which was g...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 cc388-9 (Link to this contribution)

Let me start by paying tribute to the police, the fire and rescue services and all those who atte...

Diana Johnson | 606 c389 (Link to this contribution)

I have heard the Home Secretary comment that she is not particularly concerned about the numbers,...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c389 (Link to this contribution)

The point that I am making is very simple and I am happy to repeat it to the hon. Lady. The Labou...

Andy Burnham | 606 c389 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening carefully to what the Home Secretary is saying and she has repeated the claim that...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c389 (Link to this contribution)

When the right hon. Gentleman looks at figures for overall police spending he needs to look at fi...

Richard Fuller | 606 c390 (Link to this contribution)

The Home Secretary makes a very good point; this is not just about the total money but about how ...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c390 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend, and it is very striking when we look at the figures for Bedfordshire...

Julian Knight | 606 c390 (Link to this contribution)

I want to pick up on that point about the financial management of Labour police and crime commiss...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c390 (Link to this contribution)

I have to say that I agree with my hon. Friend. If we look at the figures, we see that the cash c...

Andy Burnham | 606 c390 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Home Secretary for giving way one more time, because this is an important debate and ...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 cc390-1 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is trying to make an argument where there is none, because he knows full...

Naz Shah | 606 c391 (Link to this contribution)

The Chancellor is not present, but will the right hon. Lady confirm that his pledge to protect th...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c391 (Link to this contribution)

I described accurately in my speech what was said about real-terms figures and maximising the pre...

Jake Berry | 606 c391 (Link to this contribution)

Is my right hon. Friend surprised, as I am, that on the one hand Labour Members seem to be arguin...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c391 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right—they cannot have it all ways, and that is exactly what the sha...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c391 (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak about terrorism so I hope the hon. Gentleman will excuse me. The threat from terr...

Stephen Doughty | 606 c392 (Link to this contribution)

I have spoken to the Home Secretary previously about this, and the Minister for Policing, Crime a...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c392 (Link to this contribution)

There are two aspects to this. There is the request that Cardiff has made for capital city grant,...

Dawn Butler | 606 c392 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the Home Secretary about the fight to combat terrorism. Safer neighbourhood teams ha...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c392 (Link to this contribution)

I will make two points to the hon. Lady. First, the percentage of officers in front-line duties h...

Clive Efford | 606 c392 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Home Secretary give way?

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 cc392-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make some more progress, because we have limited time for this debate.

I cann...

Debbie Abrahams | 606 c394 (Link to this contribution)

Unfortunately, my constituents are not at all happy. Burglary has increased by 100% over the last...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c394 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I thought the hon. Lady said “invigilantism”. It is very clear—HMIC is very clear...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 cc394-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I am conscious that there is only limited time for this debate, and I am coming t...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c395 (Link to this contribution)

Given that it is the right hon. Gentleman, I will give way one last time, but I am virtually at t...

Andy Burnham | 606 c395 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Home Secretary. She has just said something that goes to the heart of o...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c395 (Link to this contribution)

No. I am sorry, but we have been through this, and I am not going to go over it again for the rig...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 606 c395 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Members must allow the Home Secretary to conclude her speech.

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c395 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Bermondsey and Old Southwark (Neil Coyle) may well be able to catch the eye o...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 606 cc395-6 (Link to this contribution)

Order. It will be obvious to the House that a great many Members wish to speak, and we have only ...

Richard Arkless | 606 c396 (Link to this contribution)

I assure Members that I have no intention of taking up any more time than is absolutely necessary...

John Stevenson | 606 c396 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that when it comes to policing, it is not just a question of money ...

Richard Arkless | 606 cc396-7 (Link to this contribution)

I remind the hon. Gentleman that the proposal was in the SNP manifesto, the Conservative manifest...

Jake Berry | 606 c397 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman would confirm that the Scottish Government were advised, befo...

Richard Arkless | 606 c397 (Link to this contribution)

I can confirm that that was the case, but we made our protestations abundantly clear at that time...

John Bercow | 606 c397 (Link to this contribution)

I discern that the hon. Gentleman has finished his speech. We are very obliged to him.

6.2 ...

Kit Malthouse | 606 cc397-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to see your happy countenance, Mr Speaker, for I rise depressed. I thought coming to...

Andy Burnham | 606 c398 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has mentioned the Met he inherited in 2008. I would not argue that it was perf...

Kit Malthouse | 606 cc398-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will accept that there have been significant changes in the Metropolitan police—that is absolut...

Keith Vaz | 606 c399 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Speaker, you are known as the Back Bencher’s champion, and I hope the shadow Home Secretary wi...

Jake Berry | 606 cc399-400 (Link to this contribution)

Robert Peel’s vision for the police was that

“the police are the public and the public are ...

Naz Shah | 606 cc400-1 (Link to this contribution)

Let me start by paying tribute to my local police, particularly Inspector Tom Horner. He works ti...

John Stevenson | 606 cc401-2 (Link to this contribution)

The police seem to be a popular subject in this House, as we have discussed them on several occas...

Emma Lewell | 606 c402 (Link to this contribution)

Many of my hon. Friends have spoken about the cuts to their local police force areas. Since 2010,...

Suella Braverman | 606 cc402-3 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened intently to the Labour party’s propositions and arguments, and I am stunned and, ...

Peter Dowd | 606 c403 (Link to this contribution)

It is becoming increasingly apparent that we are not safe with the Tories. With underinvestment i...

Jake Berry | 606 c403 (Link to this contribution)

My grandfather spent 25 years patrolling the streets of Bootle as a police officer, and he would ...

Peter Dowd | 606 c404 (Link to this contribution)

I am really pleased that the hon. Gentleman says that, because I was just coming to that very poi...

Margaret Greenwood | 606 c404 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure my hon. Friend, as a fellow Merseyside MP, is aware of the fact that we lost 19% of our...

Peter Dowd | 606 cc404-5 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree, and it surprises me that there are not even more police officers off with str...

Margaret Greenwood | 606 c405 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for giving way. Does he agree that those of us who work in this building e...

John Bercow | 606 c405 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Member for Bootle (Peter Dowd) extended a generosity that it was not within his c...

Jim McMahon | 606 cc405-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend the Member for Leigh (Andy Burnham) for opening this debate and allo...

Helen Hayes | 606 c406 (Link to this contribution)

I want to pay tribute to the hard work of the police in my constituency, which often goes above a...

Lord Davies of Gower | 606 c406 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady accept from me—I spent 32 years as a police officer—that the issue with mental...

Helen Hayes | 606 cc406-7 (Link to this contribution)

The officers in my constituency tell me that the problem is more acute at the moment than it has ...

Margaret Greenwood | 606 c407 (Link to this contribution)

Neighbourhood policing, which is the eyes and ears of policing, is important in tackling terroris...

Helen Hayes | 606 c407 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely with my hon. Friend. When communities know their officers and officers know thei...

Naz Shah | 606 c407 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend aware that Her Majesty’s inspector of constabularies, Zoë Billingham, who led H...

Helen Hayes | 606 c407 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention, which supports the case I am making. In London, we ...

Jo Stevens | 606 cc407-8 (Link to this contribution)

We have heard this evening about crime going up, workloads going up, police numbers going down an...

Lord McCabe | 606 c408 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend that such threats are multiplying. The Home Secretary suggested earli...

Jo Stevens | 606 c409 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Knife crime has gone up again this year, and we have seen the...

Jack Dromey | 606 c409 (Link to this contribution)

Neighbourhood policing was one of Labour’s greatest achievements—a proud legacy. When we were in ...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 606 c409 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman quotes Her Majesty’s inspector of constabulary Zoë Billingham, but she actuall...

Jack Dromey | 606 cc409-411 (Link to this contribution)

The Home Secretary can, if she wishes, misinterpret what the report says. I have reported the ins...

Mike Penning | 606 cc411-2 (Link to this contribution)

I was laughing at the shadow Policing Minister, Mr Speaker, and I apologise for doing so as this ...

Mike Penning | 606 c412 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way. I am afraid that the shadow Home Secretary went on for far too long, as ...

Mike Penning | 606 c412 (Link to this contribution)

If I have time, I will give way to the hon. Gentleman. He has a very important constituency issue...

Mike Penning | 606 c412 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely, so perhaps the police and crime commissioner could explain why he has not spent part ...

Mike Penning | 606 c412 (Link to this contribution)

No. Perhaps Paddy Tipping and Vera Baird convinced the Labour party that they would not accept be...

Mike Penning | 606 c412 (Link to this contribution)

No. Perhaps we should look carefully at the only force in the country that is cutting the precept...

Mike Penning | 606 c413 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way.

We have complaints when we use the precept, and complaints when we cut...

Jake Berry | 606 c413 (Link to this contribution)

In the short time remaining, will the Minister address my concerns about what further protections...

Mike Penning | 606 c413 (Link to this contribution)

I was just coming on to special constables, because they were derided by the Opposition. Voluntee...

Simon Hoare | 606 cc382 (Link to this contribution)

A few moments ago, the right hon. Gentleman rightly said that the level of threat is severe, and...

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Counter-terrorism Cybercrime Cardiff Finance Greater London Fire and rescue services Police Special constables Cuts Police and crime commissioners
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