Budget debate on Monday, 27 March 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Ruth Kelly. The answering member was Lord Willetts.
Budget Resolutions and Economic Situation
Budget debate (third day): education and schools.
Secondary information
- Type
- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 444 c583-651
- Session
- 2005-06
- Department
- Department for Education and Skills
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Commons chamber
- Proceeding contributions
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Speaker | 444 c600 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind the House that there is a 10-minute limit on Back-Bench speeches, which applies from...
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Jim Cunningham | 444 c631-2 (Link to this contribution) It has been interesting to listen to the tone of the debate, but at least we are talking about resou...
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Stewart Hosie | 444 c629-31 (Link to this contribution) I am not a defender of big oil. I am here to defend jobs and future exploration. During my recent me...
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James Brokenshire | 444 c637-40 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to participate in this important debate. I am also pleased to follow the hon. Membe...
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Sally Keeble | 444 c640-1 (Link to this contribution) To give colleagues some time, I will be brief. Rather than dealing with the macro-economy, I will ad...
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Michael Connarty | 444 c641-3 (Link to this contribution) Despite criticism of this Budget from all sides, it confirms the stability of the British economy, w...
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Mark Hoban | 444 c643-6 (Link to this contribution) The project to remodel the Chancellor was making good progress until last Wednesday. The trademark r...
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Brian H Donohoe | 444 c632 (Link to this contribution) While the Government’s proposal to extend free travel for pensioners is welcome, does my hon. Friend...
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Jim Cunningham | 444 c632-3 (Link to this contribution) Wherever possible we must work towards harmonisation in the UK, and free travel is one service in wh...
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Philip Dunne | 444 c633-6 (Link to this contribution) I remind the House of the interests declared in the register against my name. The matter that I dra...
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Kitty Ussher | 444 c636-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this debate. I will keep my remarks well within the 10...
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John Healey | 444 c649-50 (Link to this contribution) We have made progress since Budget day. Clearly the hon. Gentleman has disowned the comments made by...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c649 (Link to this contribution) I thought that I had made that clear in my speech, but I will try to give absolute clarity. Yes, we ...
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Stewart Hosie | 444 c650 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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John Healey | 444 c648 (Link to this contribution) I will later. They have nothing to say on how to make Britain a leader in the development of new ene...
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Bernard Jenkin | 444 c648 (Link to this contribution) Will the Financial Secretary give way?
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John Healey | 444 c648-9 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman looks at the public finance figures, he will see that, by 2007–08, we will be ...
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Bernard Jenkin | 444 c648 (Link to this contribution) On science, now that those in the civil service Box have had a chance to respond to the speech of ...
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Jonathan Shaw | 444 c646 (Link to this contribution) What about inward investment?
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Mark Hoban | 444 c646-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman asks about inward investment, but he forgets that a lot of last year’s inward inv...
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John Healey | 444 c647-8 (Link to this contribution) This has been a shortened debate, but in a series of time-limited speeches—there have been 15 from B...
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John Healey | 444 c650-1 (Link to this contribution) I will not because I want to respond to other hon. Members. The hon. Member for Ludlow (Mr. Dunne) ...
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Lord Risby | 444 c586 (Link to this contribution) As the Secretary of State is being party political, may I remind her that one of the Government’s ke...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c585-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The amounts that I have just outlined are in addition to the amo...
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Barry Sheerman | 444 c585 (Link to this contribution) I may have misheard my right hon. Friend, but, from reading the vast amount of documentation that we...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c585 (Link to this contribution) As usual, my hon. Friend makes a salient point. I have just laid before the House detailed, concrete...
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David Chaytor | 444 c585 (Link to this contribution) On the previous point about matching the funding in state schools to that which currently applies in...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c585 (Link to this contribution) I would be glad if my hon. Friend provided the evidence for that. I would be happy to look at it. Th...
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Michael Connarty | 444 c584 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is moving on to an interesting topic, but I want to return to the previous topi...
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John Bercow | 444 c584 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady said a moment ago that the Government have committed themselves—true enough, the...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c584 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an extremely good point. I want to come on to personalisation, because it i...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c583-4 (Link to this contribution) Today, we debate the central theme of this Labour Government’s 10th Budget: education—our No. 1 prio...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c586-7 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that I gave way to the hon. Member for Buckingham (John Bercow) because he makes an e...
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Speaker | 444 c586 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman might not have thought that that was long, but I certainly did.
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c587 (Link to this contribution) I am now dealing with further education. If the hon. Gentleman wants to discuss further education, I...
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Peter Luff | 444 c587 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c587 (Link to this contribution) I will, of course, give way to the hon. Gentleman.
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c586 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is talking complete rubbish. Our party’s election manifesto in 1997 said clearly ...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c586 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Gentleman, who I know will talk fluently and at length on the issue.
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John Bercow | 444 c586 (Link to this contribution) I will not talk at length because I do not suppose that I shall be allowed to do so, Madam Deputy Sp...
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Barry Sheerman | 444 c589-90 (Link to this contribution) : Before my right hon. Friend leaves the subject of FE, may I congratulate her on the White Paper? T...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c589 (Link to this contribution) I think that it is. When the hon. Gentleman has a chance to read the White Paper, he will see that w...
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Peter Luff | 444 c589 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Lady think that perhaps the time has come for a more radical assessment of the r...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c589 (Link to this contribution) Why has it taken the Conservative party nine years to wake up to the fact that more investment might...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c590 (Link to this contribution) I agree that the sector needs more capital investment, and capital spending in the FE sector will ri...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c587 (Link to this contribution) Before the Secretary of State moves on from schools, may I ask her about a matter that is of great c...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c588-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point. It is right that funds are in the hands of individuals so t...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c587-8 (Link to this contribution) Clearly, schools must make decisions on health and safety grounds that are right for their staff and...
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Pat McFadden | 444 c588 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree with the Secretary of State about the importance of the White Paper that was publ...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c592 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I will turn to that in a moment. I shall try to go through all the different announcements that...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c592 (Link to this contribution) I completely agree with my hon. Friend. Conservative Members trust schools—that is why we voted for ...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c592 (Link to this contribution) I had better give way to the Chairman of the Select Committee.
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c591 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a compelling point. It is true that when the Conservatives had the chance, they...
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Michael Connarty | 444 c590-1 (Link to this contribution) : My right hon. Friend may be coming to this, but it is worth making the comparisons in concrete ter...
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Pat McFadden | 444 c591 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says that he welcomes the new investment in education. Will he clear up the Conse...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c591 (Link to this contribution) As we are debating the Budget, I draw the House’s attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ ...
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Ruth Kelly | 444 c590 (Link to this contribution) Again, the hon. Gentleman makes the important point that employers in each sector should be intimate...
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John Bercow | 444 c590 (Link to this contribution) On employer involvement, in the formulation of the content of the specialised diplomas, how will the...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c594-7 (Link to this contribution) I thought that in all parts of the House there was some support for setting as part of what is calle...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c593 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is a member of the Select Committee, so I will give way to him and then try to ma...
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David Chaytor | 444 c593-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful. If the hon. Gentleman is so strong in his belief that head teachers need greater free...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c593 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is quite right. It would be helpful to have a bit more information about how the mone...
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Peter Luff | 444 c593 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my hon. Friend will not let the Secretary of State off the hook on this important point....
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Lord Willetts | 444 c593 (Link to this contribution) Pay attention at the back of class! It is very simple: Conservative Members do not believe in attach...
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Michael Connarty | 444 c593 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Gentleman will clarify that point, because I am sure that the record will show ...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c593 (Link to this contribution) Yes, but I am trying to establish what conditions, if any, will be set. Head teachers around the cou...
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Barry Sheerman | 444 c592-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman trusts head teachers, and so do I, but we would both be concerned if there was no...
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Stewart Hosie | 444 c600 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
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Gavin Strang | 444 c600 (Link to this contribution) A 10-minute limit has been imposed and many hon. Members want to speak. I would like to give way, bu...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c597 (Link to this contribution) I agree, and I hope that when the Financial Secretary to the Treasury makes his winding-up speech, w...
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Nadine Dorries | 444 c597 (Link to this contribution) Over the past five years many science departments in universities have closed, and the largest propo...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c597 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that that has happened in the hon. Gentleman’s schools, but we have still not received ...
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Ian Gibson | 444 c597 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the Government, with Wellcome Trust money, have renewed and rebuilt...
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Lord Willetts | 444 c597-600 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. I was hoping to ask the Secretary of State for a little more information ab...
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John Bercow | 444 c597 (Link to this contribution) Again, we need to focus on outputs, not merely on inputs. As the Organisation for Economic Co-operat...
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Gavin Strang | 444 c600 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to follow the principal Opposition spokesperson on education, the ...
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Bernard Jenkin | 444 c611 (Link to this contribution) We know why. This Government are paralysed by their internal splits and needed the votes of Conserva...
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Michael Connarty | 444 c603 (Link to this contribution) I would not like to accuse the hon. Lady of trying to debunk a promise on the basis that it is good ...
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Baroness Teather | 444 c602-3 (Link to this contribution) The Budget contains many welcome proposals on education, and I shall go through some of them in more...
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Gavin Strang | 444 c600-2 (Link to this contribution) Injury time does not extend the length of the match. The debate will still finish at 10 pm, so an in...
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Speaker | 444 c600 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to take out too much time in answering a point of order, but I am sure that the right ...
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John Bercow | 444 c611 (Link to this contribution) If the Government believe, as they claim, that selection within schools through grouping and setting...
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Bernard Jenkin | 444 c608-11 (Link to this contribution) I want to focus not so much on education but on the Chancellor and his Budget as a whole. While not ...
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Barry Sheerman | 444 c606-8 (Link to this contribution) In the short time available, I begin by saying that, in 10 minutes, I shall probably appear to be ra...
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Peter Luff | 444 c600 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, I am sure that you want to be helpful, as you always are, Mr. Deputy Speaker, t...
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Stephen Byers | 444 c611-2 (Link to this contribution) I draw the House’s attention to my declaration in the Register of Members’ Interests. The Chancello...
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Bernard Jenkin | 444 c612-3 (Link to this contribution) I am listening carefully to the right hon. Gentleman’s speech. I question whether the Chancellor doe...
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Peter Luff | 444 c614-7 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for North Tyneside (Mr. Byers), just as I followed ...
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Andrew Love | 444 c617 (Link to this contribution) One great concern about skills training is where the funding will come from for a major expansion. I...
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Andrew Love | 444 c614 (Link to this contribution) One of the issues sidestepped by the Turner commission was that of the subsidy given to pensions, wh...
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Stephen Byers | 444 c614 (Link to this contribution) I take my hon. Friend’s point, and I have some sympathy with it. I hope that the Government will not...
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Stephen Byers | 444 c613 (Link to this contribution) I will give way only once, to my hon. Friend the Member for Edmonton (Mr. Love).
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Stephen Byers | 444 c613 (Link to this contribution) That relates to what will be my next point, on a fair deal for the pensioners of tomorrow. To retur...
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Peter Luff | 444 c617-8 (Link to this contribution) I have come to the reluctant conclusion that co-funding of many aspects of our education system will...
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Stephen Byers | 444 c618 (Link to this contribution) I want, if I may, to take the hon. Gentleman back to the subject of India, about which I thought he ...
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Peter Luff | 444 c618-9 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for that intervention and I am happy to agree with hi...
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Lord Risby | 444 c623-4 (Link to this contribution) I invite the hon. Lady to visit my constituency and see the devastating effect of ward closures and ...
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Ian Gibson | 444 c624-6 (Link to this contribution) The Chancellor has obviously been spending his time at Cape Cod in Massachusetts to the benefit of t...
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Ann McKechin | 444 c619-21 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to contribute to today’s Budget debate. Clearly, today’s theme has...
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Lord Risby | 444 c621-3 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Glasgow, North (Ann McKechin), who made a number of t...
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Peter Luff | 444 c623 (Link to this contribution) I am listening with rapt attention to my hon. Friend, but I would not like him to leave the House wi...
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Lord Risby | 444 c623 (Link to this contribution) I accept that point, although I also recognise that the problem appears greater in the southern half...
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Sally Keeble | 444 c626 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that my hon. Friend mentions those programmes, but does he agree that that there is an imp...
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Ian Gibson | 444 c626 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that question. I would make watching those programmes compulsory in schoo...
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Brooks Newmark | 444 c626 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Ian Gibson | 444 c626 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way; I am bashing on. When we talk about young people, the real problem comes from ...
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John Hayes | 444 c627 (Link to this contribution) In the few minutes that the hon. Gentleman has left, will he tell us why he thinks a smaller and sma...
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Ian Gibson | 444 c627-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for those questions. That is absolutely true and that is why we have to p...
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David Leslie Taylor | 444 c626 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a powerful case about the potential of universities to do even more, but is...
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Ian Gibson | 444 c627 (Link to this contribution) That is an absolute factor for many people, but many other people in higher education are not there ...
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Stewart Hosie | 444 c628-9 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to pour cold water on that wonderful speech, but I might bring Members down back down ...
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Michael Connarty | 444 c629 (Link to this contribution) As the secretary of the all-party offshore oil and gas industry group, I have to challenge the hon. ...
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Nadine Dorries | 444 c589 (Link to this contribution) If the Secretary of State thinks that the reforms were so desperately needed and so important, why h...
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Bernard Jenkin | 444 c592 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on the fact that from where I sit, the Secretary of State appears a tr...
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David Chaytor | 444 c593 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Baroness Teather | 444 c603-6 (Link to this contribution) I think that the Chancellor actually said that he would match the level of funding to that of today ...
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Kitty Ussher | 444 c623 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman suggests that the problems are worse in the south. Will he admit that in the past...
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- Budgets Finance Education Further education Economic situation Pupils Primary education Schools Secondary education Budget March 2006
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